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sj2493sj2493 Member Posts: 4 Listener
edited August 2019 in PIP, DLA and AA
Any advice on the following?

Been awarded PIP standard rate for mobility and have asked for a reconsideration on this. In the mean time I sent a large folder of medical documents to aid my application. PIP are saying they received these but weren't scanned on due to the amount of.documents I sent (even though these records are all relevant to my disability) surely this unfair???

Regards

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  • sj2493sj2493 Member Posts: 4 Listener
    Does this sound fair?

    Applied for PIP from DLA - awarded mobility standard rate and I've asked for a reconsideration on this. I sent a thick file.of medical documents to support this. Now PIP are saying due to the amount of documents these were effectively ignored and not scanned even though these records all apply to my disability which took nearly 2 months request as a subject access request.

    Surely this is grossly unacceptable?
  • April2018momApril2018mom Posts: 2,869 Member
    Unfortunately they do not care. Prepare for a MR and tribunal (read the information here carefully) 
    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/appeals/your-hearing/
    Use this tool to type up a letter of appeal 
    https://www.advicenow.org.uk/pip-tool
    Unfortunately negative PIP stories are very common on here. Be honest. Give examples of how your condition affects you. 
  • sj2493sj2493 Member Posts: 4 Listener
    Does this sound fair?

    Applied for PIP from DLA - awarded mobility standard rate and I've asked for a reconsideration on this. I sent a thick file.of medical documents to support this. Now PIP are saying due to the amount of documents these were effectively ignored and not scanned even though these records all apply to my disability which took nearly 2 months request as a subject access request.

    Surely this is grossly unacceptable
  • pollyanna1052pollyanna1052 Member Posts: 1,998 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi, thought they wanted as much evidence as possible? I am also in the DLA - PIP stage. I sent in quite a lot of paperwork too.

    They dont look at info on your disability, but how it affects you and what equipment/help you need

    Did you have a f2f?
  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,284 Disability Gamechanger
    The awarding criteria for the two benefits is totally different from each other. DLA was about your illness, diagnosis or disability, whereas PIP is about your abilities to cope manage the activities described in the PIP application form know as the descriptors. So when you apply for PIP you must concentrate on the descriptors not your disability, diagnosis or the medication you take but include these in your application. 

  • cristobalcristobal Member Posts: 966 Disability Gamechanger
    @sj2493 - As other posters have said it may be that sending a 'a thick file of medical documents' hasn't worked out well..

    Would you be better being more selective and only sending stuff that was relevant to the specific difficulties that you have with your mobility? If the file was a bit thinner it might ensure that it would be read and taken into account...


  • pollyanna1052pollyanna1052 Member Posts: 1,998 Disability Gamechanger
    I remember the form notes telling us they dont want anything about our disabilities printed from the internet.
  • sj2493sj2493 Member Posts: 4 Listener
    This was all records from what the NHS/orthopaedic have on me personally, nothing off the internet.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Sending in mountains of evidence isn't the best idea because they won't have time to read through everything. Less is often more and reading through all your evidence and deciding which to send is always the better option.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,916 Disability Gamechanger
    There are two separate issues here:

    1 - they can not refuse to accept evidence unless it isn’t evidence e.g. appointment letters. However, there also has to be a a point where sheer volume makes sorting what’s relevant from what is not too onerous. 

    2 - as others have observed, quality not quantity is the only relevant factor. Having 30 reports saying the same thing is no more effective than having 1 and may not be effective at all if the thing is not relevant to the PIP activities. 

    Separate to the above is my oft stated personal view from my professional experience that medical evidence is largely irrelevant other than in cases where people lack awareness/insight of their own conditions. 52% of disability benefit claims succeed with no medical evidence at all. 
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