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"changes"in health since pip application

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    A diagnosis makes no difference to PIP because it's not about a diagnosis, if those conditions were reported on either the PIP2 form or at the assessment then they will be taken into consideration.

    What won't be taken into consideration is worsening of condition after the original decision was made.
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  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,194 Disability Gamechanger
    You will have to report a change in circumstances and have another F2F assessment,  give supply evidence to support your application in relation to the PIP descriptiors. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    wilko said:
    You will have to report a change in circumstances and have another F2F assessment,  give supply evidence to support your application in relation to the PIP descriptiors. 
    Sorry but that's not the correct advice. A diagnosis, it's not a change of circumstances.
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You're welcome. A change of circumstances should really only be reported if you can either score more points or your condition's improved, which would mean you're not entitled to the points you were previously awarded.

    A diagnosis means nothing and won't score you anymore points.
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  • chiariedschiarieds Community champion Posts: 6,896 Disability Gamechanger
    However, I believe the HCP must have some general guidance to refer to from the decision letter I received, which roughly stated that the difficulties I faced were 'consistent' with my diagnosis, & also see section 2.1.3 in the following link, which states, '.....the HP should use their specific knowledge of the health condition or impairment as a measure of the level of disability that would be expected from the claimant's condition.....'  See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    chiarieds said:
    However, I believe the HCP must have some general guidance to refer to from the decision letter I received, which roughly stated that the difficulties I faced were 'consistent' with my diagnosis, & also see section 2.1.3 in the following link, which states, '.....the HP should use their specific knowledge of the health condition or impairment as a measure of the level of disability that would be expected from the claimant's condition.....'  See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

    Yes but a diagnosis alone is not enough to be awarded PIP, so receiving a diagnosis, it not a change of circumstances. If everyone reported a change of circumstances everytime they were diagnosed with something then the backlogs would be even longer than they already are.
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  • chiariedschiarieds Community champion Posts: 6,896 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @poppy123456 I wasn't disagreeing with you about 'any change in circumstance.' I was just trying to clarify as the OP was later wondering what the point was in mentioning a diagnosis in a PIP form. In the context I mention a diagnosis must matter, but it certainly doesn't score you points. Sorry for not being clearer.
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  • chiariedschiarieds Community champion Posts: 6,896 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @justdon ...it could only happen to you!! Seriously 'tho, I'm very sorry to read this. However, I'd check, I 'think' Poppy has previously stated evidence needed to be received by the court 10 days before a tribunal. Anyway, I'd err on the side of caution. Remember to put your NI number on each page & send recorded delivery.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    chiarieds said:
    Hi @justdon ...it could only happen to you!! Seriously 'tho, I'm very sorry to read this. However, I'd check, I 'think' Poppy has previously stated evidence needed to be received by the court 10 days before a tribunal. Anyway, I'd err on the side of caution. Remember to put your NI number on each page & send recorded delivery.
    Yes, you're correct, it's 10 days before the hearing date. Although it can be sent later, or taken with you on the day and hand it to the clerk when you arrive BUT doing this risks the hearing being adjourned because they may not have time to read all the evidence.

    @justdon good luck for the hearing, do let us know the outcome.
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  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,662 Disability Gamechanger
    I really hope it is a positive outcome for you @justdon!
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,364 Disability Gamechanger
     Diagnosis is not required for any disability benefit and never has been. The legal requirement is a mental or physical condition. The claim form is not tied to the law so it can ask what it wants in general terms. A diagnosis if there is one is usually helpful as it can help confirm symptoms. 

    However, a change of diagnosis is not relevant for PIP in terms of being a relevant change of circumstances. It would only be relevant if it led directly to more points being scored. 
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  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Scope Posts: 10,662 Disability Gamechanger
    I've got my fingers crossed for you @justdon!
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