"changes"in health since pip application

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poppy123456

Hi,

A diagnosis makes no difference to PIP because it's not about a diagnosis, if those conditions were reported on either the PIP2 form or at the assessment then they will be taken into consideration.

What won't be taken into consideration is worsening of condition after the original decision was made.

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wilko

You will have to report a change in circumstances and have another F2F assessment,  give supply evidence to support your application in relation to the PIP descriptiors. 

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wilko said:

You will have to report a change in circumstances and have another F2F assessment,  give supply evidence to support your application in relation to the PIP descriptiors. 

Sorry but that's not the correct advice. A diagnosis, it's not a change of circumstances.

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poppy123456

You're welcome. A change of circumstances should really only be reported if you can either score more points or your condition's improved, which would mean you're not entitled to the points you were previously awarded.

A diagnosis means nothing and won't score you anymore points.

chiarieds

However, I believe the HCP must have some general guidance to refer to from the decision letter I received, which roughly stated that the difficulties I faced were 'consistent' with my diagnosis, & also see section 2.1.3 in the following link, which states, '.....the HP should use their specific knowledge of the health condition or impairment as a measure of the level of disability that would be expected from the claimant's condition.....'  See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

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chiarieds said:

However, I believe the HCP must have some general guidance to refer to from the decision letter I received, which roughly stated that the difficulties I faced were 'consistent' with my diagnosis, & also see section 2.1.3 in the following link, which states, '.....the HP should use their specific knowledge of the health condition or impairment as a measure of the level of disability that would be expected from the claimant's condition.....'  See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

Yes but a diagnosis alone is not enough to be awarded PIP, so receiving a diagnosis, it not a change of circumstances. If everyone reported a change of circumstances everytime they were diagnosed with something then the backlogs would be even longer than they already are.

chiarieds

Hi @poppy123456 I wasn't disagreeing with you about 'any change in circumstance.' I was just trying to clarify as the OP was later wondering what the point was in mentioning a diagnosis in a PIP form. In the context I mention a diagnosis must matter, but it certainly doesn't score you points. Sorry for not being clearer.

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chiarieds

Hi @justdon ...it could only happen to you!! Seriously 'tho, I'm very sorry to read this. However, I'd check, I 'think' Poppy has previously stated evidence needed to be received by the court 10 days before a tribunal. Anyway, I'd err on the side of caution. Remember to put your NI number on each page & send recorded delivery.

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chiarieds said:

Hi @justdon ...it could only happen to you!! Seriously 'tho, I'm very sorry to read this. However, I'd check, I 'think' Poppy has previously stated evidence needed to be received by the court 10 days before a tribunal. Anyway, I'd err on the side of caution. Remember to put your NI number on each page & send recorded delivery.

Yes, you're correct, it's 10 days before the hearing date. Although it can be sent later, or taken with you on the day and hand it to the clerk when you arrive BUT doing this risks the hearing being adjourned because they may not have time to read all the evidence.

@justdon good luck for the hearing, do let us know the outcome.

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Chloe_Scope

I really hope it is a positive outcome for you @justdon!

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mikehughescq

 Diagnosis is not required for any disability benefit and never has been. The legal requirement is a mental or physical condition. The claim form is not tied to the law so it can ask what it wants in general terms. A diagnosis if there is one is usually helpful as it can help confirm symptoms. 

However, a change of diagnosis is not relevant for PIP in terms of being a relevant change of circumstances. It would only be relevant if it led directly to more points being scored. 

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Chloe_Scope

I've got my fingers crossed for you @justdon!

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