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Hi, my name is schoolmum!

Hi to all.I am new to the group....so please bear with me as not sure how yo post properly.
Had my f2f  2 weeks ago.wjth nurse.She was very nice and told me not to worry  would be okay when I was leaving room

She said she could see I was in pain so wouldn't do physical examination. I asked was she sure as I didn't mind but she said no....she had enough information.

Are these good signs or typical off hcp 
Many thanks in advance.

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  • chiariedschiarieds Member Posts: 7,918 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @schoolmum - Welcome to this very supportive community, & thank you for joining. Was your f2f for PIP? The HCP really shouldn't comment, as what she assess on the day then goes to a DWP Decision Maker, together with any medical information you may have given, etc,  for the DWP to decide about your claim.
    You can ask for a copy of the HCP's report, as the Decision Maker usually agrees with this, to check what points they may have given, & find what you may likely be awarded.
    If you have any further questions about this, please say, as there are others here with more knowledge than I.
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @chiarieds
    Thank you for your reply.
    It is for ESA. 
    The hcp didn't tell me I would get it she just said not to worry...i would be okay.
    I didn't have a physical examination she said she could see I was in pain and had enough information...it lasted an hour.

    I was just wondering was having no examination and her comments a positive sign. Thank you

  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @schoolmum    Pleased to meet you.

    Thank you for joining and sharing.

    I am one of the team of community champions.  We support members of our community. Help, advise and offer guidance, information.

    Please can I give you some reassurance and hope this gives you some piece of mind.

    I am disabled myself have pain from addiction, mental health issues.

    Been claiming a long time.

    Always refuse the physical even though insisted all medical assessors. No was the answer. Do not have to do.

    With any assessments come a booklet this explains the situation.

    Please if you are experiencing any anxiety or have a lot of the related symptoms.

    I know a lot of associated problems with any assessment, not easy.

    You could contact the following.

    https://www.richmondfellowship.org.uk.

    https://www.mind.org.uk.

    All are mental health charities useful and informative.

    Offer floating support but most of important of all. Help with benefit situations, attending assessments. Plus your well being and health.

    Something to consider.

    They do take clientele with additional problems as well mental health.

    Might not be in all areas.

    Please if I can help or you need to know anything. Please ask.

    We are compassionate have empathy and ready to listen.

    I hope that gives a lot of reassurance and please can I wish you well for a positive outcome.

    Please take care.

    @thespiceman
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi and welcome,

    Not having a physical examination doesn't mean anything other than "it wasn't needed" all you can do at this point is request a copy of the assessment report. Once you receive that you'll be able to see what recommendations were made, they usually go with the report. If you don't understand what's recommended then post back here and someone will help you. You'll need to look at the LCW and LCWRA recommendations in the back of the report. Good luck
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 7,924

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    Hello @schoolmum and welcome to the community. I hope you hear back soon. Let us know how you get on. :)
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  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @poppy123456
    @Adrian_Scope
    Thank you.
    I rang today but no decision yet. It's been with them since 3rd December. 
    Lady read out my report as still not received my requested copy.
    It sounded true and positive. Few things I remember were ....can only manage to walk 40 metres in 1 to 2 mins berry breathless. The end bit read something like...while planned hospital tests and treatment may improve I can see no improvement in the short term.
    I'm try and remember what else hca said in her report.
    Does this seem positive to you for maybe sg or wrag ...or none thank you







  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I really wouldn't like to comment on that without knowing exactly what the LCW and LCWRA recommendations are. Once you do receive it if you don't understand it please post back and someone will help you further.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @thespiceman
    @chiarieds
    Sorry I forgot to add your names when I posted earlier 

    I rang today but no decision yet. It's been with them since 3rd December. 
    Lady read out my report as still not received my requested copy.
    It sounded true and positive. Few things I remember were ....can only manage to walk 40 metres in 1 to 2 mins berry breathless. The end bit read something like...while planned hospital tests and treatment may improve I can see no improvement in the short term.
    I'm try and remember what else hca said in her report.
    Does this seem positive to you for maybe sg or wrag ...or none thank you
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Hca also wrote in report...something like.....was in pain. Weak hand grip.....breathless after walking into assessment room...looked frail and unwell. She listed and confirmed my chd osteiarthritis fibromyalgia ....all medication is what is expected for illnesses....on pain killers but only cocodamel as otheres would cause stomach problems. Can only mobilse 40 metre in 1 to 2 minutes cant use aid because if upper arm pain and weakness...doesn't drive anymore due to pain in feet and arthritis in neck and shoulders with limited movement....she kept saying something like as would be usual or in keeping with the the diagnoses.
    I'm really on pins and just hope for a positive result.and hooe I get report soon.
    Lady I spoke to today said as it's 14 days 9n Friday since they had hca report I can ring and ask for it to be emailed to a decision maker...not sure if this is correct though as some people seem to be waiting months.
  • chiariedschiarieds Member Posts: 7,918 Disability Gamechanger
    @schoolmum - No worries, & thank you for tagging me. I've been through the PIP process but not ESA. So I have some understanding how PIP goes. Poppy is the one here who has a great knowledge of benefits, & I would have to agree with her last comment. I only hope it's not too long until you get your assessor's report, & hopefully before Christmas!
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2019
    Hello @schoolmum    Thank you for the reply.

    Please if I can explain . This might help and give you reassurance some peace of mind.

    Please can I ask did you contact any of the links I provided.

    I do understand if you do not wish to contact them, they take clientele with any thing like disabilities and other conditions, plus mental health .

    Anxiety and stress are related and can be harmful to health needing some professional help and support.

    If you access the charities mentioned. They can and do a lot around Benefits including speaking to DWP or other welfare support. Intervention, speak on your behalf any appeals or assessments.

    Form filling in.

    I have been doing this a long time first started claiming left school around early Eighties signed on assessments continuous on a off. Periods of work then now since early Nineties.

    Been claiming again all the assessments, medical physical and much more.

    Every one has the experiences you going through right now.

    The insecurities, fears have I said the right things. Anxiety plaguing my pain, I did not say anything about this or this.

    You have done nothing wrong.

    Remember this you a member of a our community wanting a result and there are always solutions or answers.

    Another reason to contact mental health charities.

    I used all three  for situations like this.

    Helped me a lot.

    All I know best thing I ever did, gave me my life back and reasons am here advising community members.

    Please if you have any questions please ask.

    Happy to help you a valued important member of our community.

    My friends @chiarieds     @poppy123456   are here anytime. As I am just put our names like I have there username.

    We can assist you and get in touch with you  means your not alone.

    Please take care.

    @thespiceman




    Community Champion
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  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @poppy123456
    @chiarieds
    @Adrian_Scope
    @thespiceman
    Hi there everyone
    I have just rang dwp because still not had the nurses face to face report after requesting it.
    The gentleman said he would look into it.
    He came back and said a decision was made last week and he would look at it print it and send it to me with the nurse report.
    He went away for a while and I say worrying.....
    He came back and said I had 'passed ' and was put in a support group for a year and I was due a back payment from 22 August and it will be in my bank tomorrow.
    I am in absolute shock.....but won't believe it till I get the official letter.
    It is such a relief to get a decision in my favour.
    He couldn't tell me whst was in the decision makers report as he had printed it and sent 1st class post as post for today had gone.
    Is this usual as I am so relieved for being put in support group as I don't have to go for interviews.
    Thank you all for being so kind advising.x



  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Great news. Just so you're aware the timescale they give you is just a guide and nothing more. They can re-assess you anytime from 3 months.

    You won't need to attend any work focused interviews and no further fit notes are needed from your GP. You'll receive extra money from the 14th week of your claim, if it's New style ESA you're receiving then it will be £111.65 per week.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello  @schoolmum   pleased for you well done.

    Best wishes, please we are here anytime you need a friend.

    Thank your for kind words pleasure to help .

    Please take care.

    @thespiceman


    Community Champion
    SCOPE Volunteer Award Engaging Communities 2019
    Mental Health advice, guidance and information to all members
    Nutrition, Diet, Wellbeing, Addiction.
    Recipes
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @poppy123456
    @thespiceman
    Thank you for kind words
    I will keep my fingers cross that what he told me is correct.
    My gp fit note was for 3 months until March 2020.even though I don't have to send them should I still keep getting them for when I am having a renewal examination.
    He said it is back dated from 22 August and will be £ 670.86.........i have tried to work it out but doesn't seem correct.x

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    No, you won't need anymore fit notes, even when you are re-assessed. ESA support group is an ongoing award and doesn't ever end unless you're either found fit for work or placed into the WRAG.

    To work out the correct backdated money, what date did you first start your claim?
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Not quite sure exact but was early May 2019. I get the money on a Thursday....next due 2nd of January 2020
    Does this group mean I am getting 10 pound Christmas bonus....maybe thst is included.x

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Without knowing the exact start date of your claim it's impossible to tell you how much you would be owed but the £670 you were told by DWP sounds about right. Support Group pays an extra £38.55 per week but no disability premiums are available with New style ESA.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Thank you poppy.il see if I can find letters telling me when was I started from.
    So is payment fron start if claim untill 14 weeks? They said it's from 22nd August which is a Thursday.do to Thurs 19th Dec when decidion was made is 17 weeks or to thursday or unil Tuesday 24th when payment will be made is 27 weeks 3 days......will that Christmas bonus be in this money.
    X
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Sorry....i have put 27 weeks when it should read 17 weeks
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    No problem. Your thoughts are not correct. Assessment period is 13 weeks. This means that you receive the extra money from the 14th week of your claim and you will continue to receive the Support Group rate for as long as you remain in that group. 17 weeks @ £38.55 = £655.35. After that backdated money you'll then receive £111.65 per week, which is £223.30 every fortnight for as long as you remain in the Support Group.

    The Christmas bonus is and extra one off £10 payment, which you will receive.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • chiariedschiarieds Member Posts: 7,918 Disability Gamechanger
    @schoolmum - Very pleased that this has worked out OK for you, & lovely you got the news before Christmas. Hope you can now relax & enjoy it!
  • schoolmumschoolmum Member Posts: 11 Listener
    @chiarieds
    Many thanks...im delighted but will feel more assured when I actually see letters.
    You are right...it is a lovely early Christmas gift.xx
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 7,924

    Scope community team

    Really pleased for you @schoolmum. Have a happy Christmas. :)
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