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Pip evidence

ShaunH Member Posts: 28 Connected
Hi All 

I am after info on medical evidence for my pip tribunal,

I have written a letter stating why i think my decision was incorrect and what i think i should have scored, my GP has read it and wrote a letter stating that he strongly agrees with me and put a couple of pointers in there about my bladder and bowel incontinence, 

As I have had my condition since 7 days old and now 30year I havnt seen a specialist for some years now as there is not much more they can do for me, so in respect of evidence I dont have statement from specialist only from my GP.

I am thinking of writing to my GP for my medical records from years ago and picking key pointers out that show my drop foot, muscle waste, bladder and bowel problems so it all backs up what i have stated in my "how your visibility effects you" form.

I was just wondering if there is any point in doing this as it is spanning over 29 years, if not what else could i use? 

If it is a good idea to sift through 29 years of evidence how do i ask my GP for my medical records?



  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 31,167 Disability Gamechanger

    You can certainly request your medical records and it's free to receive digital copies of them. Any paper copies you want you will need to pay for those. To request them just speak to the receptionist at your GP surgery. When i requested mine quite a few months ago all i had to do was sign a form and they were then ready to view within 24 hours.

    However, usually there's really not much in medical records that would be useful to send, at least there wasn't in mine. Usually medical records contain things like GP appointments, blood text results etc etc. Sending medical evidence that's 29 years old may not be used, unless you can get more up to date evidence to back it up.

    Letters from GP aren't useful either to be honest because a GP very rarely knows how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors.

    The best thing you can do is give some real life examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you. Mentioning any lies/contradictions that may have been told in the report, also won't help your PIP claim.

  • ShaunH
    ShaunH Member Posts: 28 Connected
    I just thought the medical records may show evidence i have incontinence of both bowel and bladder and drop foot then it will back up what i  said about using aids etc.

    But thank you for your advice @poppy123456 and the link you have put on someone else's post "pip assessment guide part 2" is brilliant.

    Thank you 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 16,350 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello and welcome, as Poppy as suggested years of medical evidence probably wont even be looked at as it isn't about diagnosis more about how your conditions affect you. I would concentrate on real examples of how your condition affects you against the descriptors. I only sent off one letter from my specialist and my copy of my prescription, all the rest was detailed in my forms.

    I hope you get the result you want and keep up the fight

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  • cristobal
    cristobal Member Posts: 984 Disability Gamechanger
    I just thought the medical records may show evidence i have incontinence of both bowel and bladder and drop foot then it will back up what i  said about using aids etc

    @ShaunH - you're right - if a doctor has diagnosed incontinence then that's beyond dispute.

    Unfortunately it's the second bit that is incorrect - a diagnosis is simply that and it will rarely (in my experience) 'back up what you say about using aids.'

    You'll have to tell them that yourself, and give examples.

    Best read the activities/ descriptors first (as others have said) so you know what it's about...
  • ShaunH
    ShaunH Member Posts: 28 Connected
    Thanks everyone for help and support, im going to speak with my GP but im just going to go to the tribhnal make my voice heard and put all the facts and how it does effect me and just leaving in there hands not much else i can do from there going to try and get it out of my head untill the bundle comes and go over everything and make my case. 



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