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Pip tribunal wait and coronavirus

MobileGamesMobileGames Member Posts: 81 Courageous
edited March 2020 in PIP, DLA and AA
Evening. I'm currently on week 51 of waiting for a tribunal for pip appeal. My question is,with the coronavirus and being told to stay indoors,no going out unless to get food once a week,exercise once a day with family you live with or as a key worker,if I get a date through in the next few months as the current average waiting time in my area is 59 weeks,will it be by phone because I can't go over and risk taking the coronavirus back to my parents who are in their 70s with health problems? I need to isolate completely due to my parents,and going to the supermarket is out of the question,even was before this due to depression,anxiety and ocd. Crowds are a trigger of mine,very overwhelming to the point of frustration,feeling irritable and tears where I have to remove myself because I have visions of hurting someone. Thank you.
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • MobileGamesMobileGames Member Posts: 81 Courageous
    edited March 2020
    @poppy123456. The information is confusing. If I still need to attend,I am NOT putting my family at risk. The PM said to only go out for shopping,if you're a key worker or to exercise once a day on your own or with family you live with,away from people. I know there's the 2mtr distancing rule,but I am NOT risking it. I'm not going into that building knowing that there's a coronavirus outbreak. No way! My parents ARE vulnerable. One has diabetes,both on blood thinners,one had a mini stroke,one has angina and a sticking heart valve,and they are BOTH over 70. I'd rather have it adjourned. 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,299 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2020
    One of the very rare occasions @poppy123456 is out of date :)

    The current scenario is that all tribunal venues are shut and there are no oral hearings at all. Telephone hearings commence with immediate effect but most likely those where you have a rep will be postponed until they can get the bandwidth and organisation to enable conference calls. In the remaining cases a judge will preview the papers and call the appellant around the time the hearing is listed. They may also make separate calls to the DQM and medical professionals who might otherwise have sat with them. Some cases will be decided on the papers only but consent would ordinarily be needed for that. My personal guess would be that the only ones decided on the papers will be those where people have either consented to a paper hearing already or they’re one of Ernie Ryder’s “no brainier” cases i.e. those which ought to have been decided in favour much earlier. 
  • MobileGamesMobileGames Member Posts: 81 Courageous
    @mikehughescq. Thank you for the Information. Thank goodness they are not open. I was panicking. I don't have a rep. Before the pandemic happened,one CAB had said that they'd arrange a volunteer driver to take me. I've had written representation from another CAB sent to the tribunal service back in January so I guess it's just waiting to be listed for a hearing and then being rung up to be heard by phone. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @mikehughescq thanks for that, i did indeed miss it. Much appreciated. I will remember that if more posts come with this question, which no doubt they will.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 1,119 Disability Gamechanger
    One of the very rare occasions @poppy123456 is out of date :)

    The current scenario is that all tribunal venues are shut and there are no oral hearings at all. Telephone hearings commence with immediate effect but most likely those where you have a rep will be postponed until they can get the bandwidth and organisation to enable conference calls. In the remaining cases a judge will preview the papers and call the appellant around the time the hearing is listed. They may also make separate calls to the DQM and medical professionals who might otherwise have sat with them. Some cases will be decided on the papers only but consent would ordinarily be needed for that. My personal guess would be that the only ones decided on the papers will be those where people have either consented to a paper hearing already or they’re one of Ernie Ryder’s “no brainier” cases i.e. those which ought to have been decided in favour much earlier. 
    Thanks for this, I had also missed that!  Do you know how long it will last?  My hearing is meant to be April 17th - should I assume the courts will still be closed by then?  

    I made the appeal online so should I expect an email clarifying what's happening?

    Also, do you know what number they use to call people if it's the same nationally?  I find it extremely difficult to use phones (quickly causing physical symptoms such as IBS & nausea to the point where I can't speak) and tbh I'm more worried about getting the phonecall than I was about attending in person before all of this started.


  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,299 Disability Gamechanger
    If you lodged an appeal online then you’ll be notified automatically the moment anything changes provided you asked for that when registering the appeal.

    No-one can say when venues will open bar government. 

    Current scenario is that the tech allows conference calls of up to 5 so that’s a panel of 3; the appellant and a clerk. Thus all cases with a rep are being pulled unless 

    - it’s a case which would ordinarily be heard by a judge sitting alone (thus 4 on the call).
    - the rep and appellant consent to it going ahead without the rep.
    - it was going to be a paper hearing anyway.

    There’s a hope the tech can be expanded to accommodate reps but these things take, time and money and people to be physically present. It happens when it happens.

    The advice at present is not to ring. It’s unrealistic to expect queries to be answered in a timely manner at this point.  
  • neuromum4neuromum4 Member Posts: 67 Courageous
    My PIP tribunal was supposed to be on 1st April, Just recieved a text saying it's cancelled and not to call as they have a limited service.

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,299 Disability Gamechanger
    Do you have a rep?
  • neuromum4neuromum4 Member Posts: 67 Courageous
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,299 Disability Gamechanger
    Sadly that’s must likely why. The tech at present takes up to 5 on a call - a panel of 3, you and the clerk. It will change and improve but no idea when.
  • neuromum4neuromum4 Member Posts: 67 Courageous
    I can wait it's only been 14 months a few more plus won't make much of a difference.
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 1,119 Disability Gamechanger
    I don't have a rep... :# 


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