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Cruella_loves_spots
Cruella_loves_spots Member Posts: 9 Listener
welp, i never got a single point, now time to send a huge file full of medical evidence( which i now know should have went 1st)

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  • woodbine
    woodbine Member, Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,753 Disability Gamechanger
    The next step is to request a Mandatory reconsideration (MR), sending a "huge" file full of medical evidence might not help as to be honest they probably wouldn't read most of it, send the most relevant would be my advice, and give examples of where you didn't score points but think you should have and why. If the MR fails and the majority do the next step is an appeal. Try and get some help if possible from CAB or welfare rights.
    Be extra nice to new members.
  • MsCuriosity
    MsCuriosity Member Posts: 11 Connected
    Unfortunately, it appears that the PIP assessments are designed to say no. They have minimum medical training, if any at all, The mandatory Consideration isn't much better either, so please don't be disappointed there either. If or When you go to the tribunal they are more experienced, observant and have common sense. The questions are not scripted and they seem to have more compassion.

    Good luck and don't give up. There is help out there. If you let me know what area you are in I will see what I can find for you.
  • Cruella_loves_spots
    Cruella_loves_spots Member Posts: 9 Listener
    I am in Cowdenbesth, I am from Glasgow so its of not knowing who to go to here
  • saz11
    saz11 Member Posts: 121 Pioneering
    @Cruella_loves_spots
     
    Please don't give up I know Its a disheartening and a overwhelming experience having been through it.

    Applying for the mandatory reconsideration is worth considering. I have been through this process twice and on both occasions had the decision overturned and awarded pip .

    Not all cases are successful but some are. 

    On receiving my initial decision i phoned that day to apply my MR with clear instructions that i would follow up with a official letter , by doing this it get the MR recorded from date of phone call.
    I waited a few weeks and  confirmed with them this had been received and recorded & scanned into their system. 

    But always follow up with a official letter so you have it in writing and keep a copy.

    I am also from Glasgow and to be honest I didn't have much help to reach out too but that's not to say it will be the same for yourself. 

    Hope this helps in some way .
  • MsCuriosity
    MsCuriosity Member Posts: 11 Connected
    @Cruella_loves_spots

    Hi there

    I found these links, please call them:
    http://gda.scot/welfare-rights-now

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/fill-in-form/

    https://www.glasgow.gov.uk/appealspack

    You are lucky, even your council will help you appeal. I hope this eases the stress. Never give up. You will get there. Only you know how you feel and you have your evidence . Please, don't forget to come back and share the good news and cheer us up.
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 16,445 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Cruella_loves_spots I am  sorry to hear about your PIP decision, as advised MR is the next stage and hopefully dome of the links will be of help to you.

    Keep us informed 
  • MsCuriosity
    MsCuriosity Member Posts: 11 Connected
    @MikeBroderick None of the above are specialists they are general. They don't have the knowledge to draw conclusions. How can a physiotherapist, nurse, paramedic, etc assess hidden disabilities or complex issues? The questions they ask are scripted and most are irrelevant. Do you measure how far you can walk? Come on.

    What people need to realise is that not everyone with a broken arm will move the same way. There are people who defy the odds to the human eye but still have the ailment. Everyone handles things in a different way.
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Member, Community Co-Production Group Posts: 12,478 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm in complete agreement with mikehughes. -  'None of the above are specialists they are general.' This begs the question, what does MsCuriosity mean? Each of the above (Drs, nurses, physios & paramedics) are specialists in their own field, & some actually go on to specialise further.
    'They don't have the knowledge to draw conclusions.' Hopefully MsCuriosity is never ill, as, if visiting their GP, in their opinion, he/she couldn't conclude what medication/treatment option/referral they might need. If referred to see a physio that too would be useless, as a physio might assess, but wouldn't be able to conclude an appropriate treatment plan. Of course they would have said that if they ever became seriously ill, don't call for an ambulance, as a paramedic wouldn't be able to draw any quick conclusions as to potentially save their life on the way to hospital.
    Even the DWP concede that, 'All HPs undertaking assessments on behalf of DWP must be registered practitioners (at least 2 years post qualification)......as experienced practitioners and trained disability analysts, HPs will have detailed knowledge of the principles and practice of relevant consultation and examination techniques.'
    MsCuriosity you might also take the time to read that the OP is studying to be a nurse., which I hope is going well Elle.
    If I had to disclose my interest, it's that I qualified as a physio a long time ago. I maintain my interest particularly in neurological disorders; have the utmost respect for nurses, & have worked with, rather than against, some Drs here in the UK.

  • katho31
    katho31 Posts: 692 Connected
    @chiarieds, hi, i disagree with the section beginning Even the DWP concede that, "All HP's etc, i read at least two informative and factual statements, one from MIND, saying most assessors would not be registered practitioners. i had my PIP tel. consultation last friday, the lady who assessed me was a trainee {her manager listened in on the call after i agreed to it} my husband also spoke to the assessor, who was pleasant and showed empathy, she told him she had no training as a disibility analyst.

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