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I gave up last time.. Let the fight begin

Toffee
Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
Well they say we learn iam going to write to pip and start all over again this time am not giving up I don't care how long it takes or if I have to Mr or appeal I will. This time I will make sure the form is filled in properly as iam not good with forms my sisters going to help. How are we all? 
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  • Oxonlady
    Oxonlady Member Posts: 459 Pioneering
    Hi Toffee, not giving up sounds like a good idea!
    Are you having trouble sleeping or do you like staying up late?

    I keep waking up, several times a night, so I'm constantly tired, day and night... 

    I wish you every success with your new PIP application and I hope you do get the help you need to complete the application form and present your case fairly. Good luck. 
  • Toffee
    Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
    Hi oxanlady
    I have trouble sleeping like you I wake up serval times sometimes a wake for hours. 
    I permently tired but when it comes to sleep I need a miracle
    Thank you for your kind words
  • Oxonlady
    Oxonlady Member Posts: 459 Pioneering
    You are welcome, Toffee. Sometimes a little understanding and encouragement go a long way. 
    I'm going to try praying, that usually helps me go back to sleep. Though no doubt I'll wake up again in a couple of hours!
    I hope you can get some sleep tonight... 
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    edited August 2020
    Three things:

    1 - success is not a given. The first thing to do is to get advice on whether you have a likely entitlement. Some people “fight” for years without ever seeing that the real issue is not who they’re fighting against but the fact that they never bothered to find out whether they were entitled in the first place. They just assumed that their disabilities/health issues must equal entitlement. So, if you’re serious, start with https://advicelocal.uk/.

    2 - if you think of it as a fight you are doomed to failure. It’s not a confrontation or a battle. It’s simply about understanding what it is you’re claiming and what they need. An astonishing number of appeal pursue cases all the way to appeal and beyond with a burning sense of injustice but no actual clue as to the rules of PIP and that key phrase “reliably”. If, for example, you don’t know the difference between assertion and evidence or why anecdotal evidence is often more important than medical evidence then you need help.

    3 - does your sister know any of the above? Does she understand the PIP points system? What anecdotal evidence is? The 4 elements of “reliably”. If not, then frankly, she is the last person who should be filling your form in. Professional help is out there. It does not cost and you should consider using it immediately before you go any further.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 28,390 Disability Gamechanger
    HI,

    Looking back at previous threads of yours, do you currently have a PIP award in payment?
  • Toffee
    Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
    Yes I seek advice to day thank you so much Mikehugescg much appreciated 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 28,390 Disability Gamechanger
    Toffee said:
    Yes I seek advice to day thank you so much Mikehugescg much appreciated 

    Please answer my question. Do you currently have an award of PIP?
  • Toffee
    Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
    Hi poppy
    Hope you are well
    Yes daily living standard rate
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 28,390 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2020
    Thanks. Then you can't start a new claim, you need to report a change of circumstances but do be aware that you could lose everything you already have by doing this. Please get some expert advice before doing anything else. No one on an internet forum can tell you whether there's any risks to your current award.
  • Toffee
    Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
    Hi oxanlady 
    I managed 3 hours sleep ty
    Hope you did two 
  • Toffee
    Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
    Yes thank you poppy I've just been looking to get some professional help am struggling been on shelter turn2us and the one Mikehugescg gave me no joy as yes but iam going to keep looking till I find some advice poppy 
  • Oxonlady
    Oxonlady Member Posts: 459 Pioneering
    Hi Toffee, it's great that you are looking for professional advice. Please remember that if you suffer from any specific condition there's bound to be a specific support group or charity that can also help you. 
    Take care. 
  • Toffee
    Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
    Yes I have 
    Mixed anexity and depression 
    Fibromyalgia 
    Copd stage 2
    Nerve impingement right shoulder 
    PTSD
    Panic disorder 
    And then there's things that I suffer from them xx
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    So nothing in there suggests a mobility issue. That leaves you with going for enhanced rate daily living. Where specifically have you identified the extra points? Which activities and why?

    if you can’t answer that then you need professional advice before you do anything with your PIP. You shouldn’t live in fear of losing what you have - the most likely outcome of a request to look again is an unchanged award - but you need to not let your current enthusiasm for a challenge get in the way of sense. Identify your points else you’ve no case.
  • Oxonlady
    Oxonlady Member Posts: 459 Pioneering
    Hi Toffee, with having COPD, you Could perhaps speak to someone on the British Lung Foundation helpline. Also, MIND might help with advice on depression anxiety and benefits. 
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    I feel there’s an air of unreality descending here. Yes, there are charities available for many conditions but overwhelmingly they will point you elsewhere for benefits advice. They simply do not have the resources. Information on a web page is not advice. Information is not personal and tells you something very basic and unchanging. Advice is personal; based on personal circumstances and gives options personal to you. This poster needs advice not information so pointing them to charities related to their conditions may help in relation to the condotions but it’s unlikely to help with the benefits aspect. 
  • Toffee
    Toffee Member Posts: 251 Pioneering
    Thank you  both so very much much appreciated gave me lots to think on. Iam contacting cab on monday will keep you all upto date thank you once again 
  • Oxonlady
    Oxonlady Member Posts: 459 Pioneering
    Mikehughescq, please don't underestimate the importance of having support whilst in the process of obtaining information and making a new application, especially in someone who suffers from anxiety and depression as well as physical ailments. There's nothing "unreal" about emotional support and encouragement when in the process of dealing with hard facts. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    In any case, when I contacted the British Lung Foundation helpline I found them very knowledgable and professional as are many other Charities, such as Age UK. 
  • Oxonlady
    Oxonlady Member Posts: 459 Pioneering
    Wishing you all the best, Toffee. 
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Posts: 8,845 Connected
    I fear you may have misunderstood my post. The original poster needs very specific advice. Do I qualify for a higher rate of PIP daily living? Can you help me complete the form if I do? As I have already said, they can get lots of support from charities which support their health conditions. It is very unlikely they will get the two things above. 

    I am not underestimating the support such charities provide at all but that has no relevance to this specific discussion. 

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