Do you have any concerns about the coronavirus vaccine?

Ross_Alumni

tomm said:

My take on this "vaccine" is that it is an EXPERIMENT no one knows what they long term results of having this mRNA in your body will be, they have no clue, how it will interact with medications people take, the jab has only emergency approval ,and is still in TRIAL until 2023 in the USA , there has already been many reports of people dying within days of having the 1st shot, and others suffering from serious adverse events , in the usa they make this public so far the MHRA hasn't published any stats  I will not be having this ,i have an immune system, Also it is not the way out of this , as they have already admitted we will still need to wear masks and socially distance, and it will not prevent infection or stop transmission , which IMO makes it pointless and a risk for NOTHING

@tomm

Hope you're well.

That's an interesting point of view, I was wondering if you have any sources to back up your claims there? 

The vaccine has been quite a contentious  subject since the programme started and I can't see that changing any time soon. Of course there is some concern there at how quickly it has been developed and approved, but I doubt that the major governing bodies in this country would approve it if they didn't have confidence in it's safety.

You're right that people have experienced side effects of varying kinds, my partner received her first jab and her limbs ached for a couple of days, but I would stress that's just one person's experience and everybody is different. It's also worth noting that side effects can occur with most vaccinations (see this information from the CDC), not just the Coronavirus ones, it's just being more heavily publicised on this occasion for obvious reasons.

My thoughts on the subject are that I am willing to trust the vaccines, which have as I say been approved by the major health governing bodies, rather than take my chances with getting the virus.

chiarieds

When someone says they have an immune system, it's not surprising, as all animals have one. In most invertebrates this is 'innate immunity,' i.e. the animal has a quick response to any foreign microbe, whereas in vertebrates, there is also an 'adaptive immunity,' i.e. one which adapts & changes to defend against specific microbes, which the innate system cannot do. The adaptive immune system also has a memory, so when it encounters the same pathogen (anything that produces a disease such as bacteria or virus) or vaccination again, it 'remembers,' & quickly responds. Please see: https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev-animal-031412-103634

Another good thing, as far as Covid-19 goes, is that mice have therefore been studied before trials on humans ever began.

Some interesting thoughts here: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200716-the-people-with-hidden-protection-from-covid-19    & T cells have been studied for some time.

Now to debunk the rest, unfortunately there are anti-vaxxers whose take seems to spread, possibly by social media...enough medical jargon to try & convince, but not backed up by medical science, nor statistics. The main concern is anaphylaxis after any vaccination; risks calculated with the flu vaccine were 1.3 times per million administered doses. In the USA, with the 2 different types of vaccine used against Covid-19, between 2.1 & 6.2 cases per million doses were reported less than a month ago. The takeaway point being, 'The risk of contracting Covid-19 outweighs that posed by the vaccines, officials and clinicians say.'

Please see: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/what-to-know-about-vaccine-related-deaths-allergies-quicktake

However, here in the UK, & I quote from the Covid-19 Green book, Chapter 14a - January 2021, 'There are very few individuals who cannot receive the Pfizer-BioNTech or AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines. Where there is doubt, rather than withholding vaccination, appropriate advice should be sought from the relevant specialist, or from the local immunisation or health protection team.The vaccine should not be given to those who have had a previous systemic allergic reaction (including immediate-onset anaphylaxis) to:

- a previous dose of the same COVID-19 vaccine

- any component (excipient) of the COVID-19 vaccine

I would therefore conclude that the vaccines offered here in the UK are incredibly safe, as anyone susceptible to such anaphylaxis would be excluded.

chiarieds

With you there @woodbine - there have been deaths following a Covid-19 vaccination, but these were unfortunately mainly in frail, elderly people with underlying disorders, Their deaths have not been linked to the vaccine in any country, & believe you me, I have searched in the BMJ, Lancet, & other medical databases.

I have tried to give reputable links above, & when someone says, 'I have an immune system,' I can only remain skeptical as to their medical understanding.

Like benefits, I also feel unbiased. & accurate reports should be given on medical info, especially due to Covid-19 & vaccinations. Is this a debating forum, or one that tries to give accurate info, & debunk the rest?

Lisatho11987777

I think only time will tell they have said  so many different things over the past year  in my own opinion  no one knows enough about anything  doesnt matter how much its debated on here we don't know anything realy 

chiarieds

Yes, we will all certainly know more in the coming months with further research & continuing publication of studies. I'm not sure who 'they' are, & what 'no one knows enough about anything 'really' means.' I'm not saying I do, altho I do have a little medical understanding, but like @woodbine , don't feel like something as important as this should be debated, unless backed up with fact. Some issues are just too important, & people should not be put off the vaccines offered. I don't feel that different people's opinions matter, rather the UK's & the rest of the world's scientists. If you have links to prove this otherwise, of course please do say.

Lisatho11987777

@chiarieds in my own opinion the government  have made many mistakes  and the people who made the vaccination  aren't 100 per cent sure  in my opinion only time will tell 

I do agree that it shouldn't be debated  on here  because even with information given things could change 

Ichika

Yes, I do, I have a concern that it won't work, I had the Pfizer vaccine on Thursday, can someone help me to feel reassured about this, please. 

Edikie

I have been offered one but  I’m not going to take the and scared  vaccine beacuse I feel like it’s rushed  don’t know what’s in it and have recent jabs before if you can still spread covid even with vaccine so don’t really need I have a disability. 

chiarieds

Hi @Edikie - perhaps you could discuss this with your GP. There's some info in the following link, including what's in the different vaccines available in the UK. Please see:  https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/    The vaccines help in that if you get Covid-19 you shouldn't get seriously ill & end up in hospital, which will certainly help people with a disability. Do talk to your GP about this.

alex72

i never had any second thoughts about the vaccine even when people could get blood clots because of it.i already suffer from them. and if we have to get a third one i will be first in line

Tori_Scope

Hi @Edikie Along with the link chiarieds has posted, you might also like to read this NHS page on the safety of the coronavirus vaccines.

How COVID-19 vaccines are developed, tested and approved

COVID-19 vaccines have to go through several stages of clinical trials before they can be approved for use.
Clinical trials are where a vaccine or medicine is tested on volunteers to make sure it works and is safe.
The approved COVID-19 vaccines have been tested on thousands of people in the UK and around the world, including:

• people from different ethnic backgrounds

• people aged between 18 and 84

• people with different health conditions

All vaccines used in the UK must be approved by the independent Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

The MHRA makes sure the vaccines meet strict international standards for safety, quality and effectiveness. Once a vaccine is approved, it's closely monitored to continue to make sure it is safe and effective.

There's also a video at the bottom of the page that explains how the vaccines were developed in a way that's easy to understand I hope this puts your mind at rest a little regarding your fear that the vaccines were rushed through.

Before having the vaccine, they'll ask whether you've had any recent vaccines that might affect whether or not you can have the vaccine at that time. If you're unsure, please speak to your GP, pharmacist, or nurse.

As chiarieds has said, although the vaccine isn't 100% effective, the NHS page linked states that

Research has shown the vaccines help:

• reduce your risk of getting seriously ill or dying from COVID-19

• reduce your risk of catching or spreading COVID-19

• protect against COVID-19 variants

Lisatho11987777

New things come out about the vacination all the time people who have had the 2nd vacination can still catch corona virus in wales we have only two people on ventilators  that had the two vacinations but everyone is different 

At the end of the day people have a choice and we should respect that but its best to have it if you can 

MarkM88

lisathomas50 
 in wales we have only two people on ventilators  that had the two vacinations 

Is there a source for that? 

Lisatho11987777

The way things are going we will be back in lockdown 

Lisatho11987777

@MarkN88 wzles online type into search bar 

Lisatho11987777

MarkM88

Thanks Lisa. 

Lee39

I have no issue with the vaccines. I have had 2 Pfizer jabs only issues i had was a sore arm for a 24 hours or so and i will happily have a 3rd one if it is needed, i do this to protect my loved ones i have a solid immune system so it is unlikely i would of caught this virus as i followed the guidelines and only went out when i absolutely had to. I am glad to be able to fight it off if i ever did contract this terrible virus, my mum has had it twice and i saw how bad it was first hand.... it blows my mind there are still people who think this is a government conspiracy and it is fake..... 

edikie234

Don’t trust it have concerns not taking 

Lee39

At this point whilst I do understand and respect some people’s legitimate concerns I still think that the people who are being stubborn and refusing this life saving vaccine are just a danger to society and incredibly irresponsible.