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How are you coping with the news?

Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 3,334

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edited December 2020 in Coffee lounge
I think we can all agree that there is a lot going on in the outside world at the minute. 

The news on Saturday that Christmas restrictions were to be tightened because of the new variant of covid-19 came as a real blow for people suddenly plunged into tier 4.  While constant updates about countries banning arrivals from the UK and the Brexit transition means we are experiencing a year like no other.  (I won't say unprecedented). 

This all got me wondering, how are you coping?  Are you managing to stay relaxed?  What impact, if any, is this having on you?

I think this is a time when our community members might need each other that little bit more so please let us know if you are struggling because we want to help <3
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  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 9,145 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm not struggling but upset with the christmas restrictions and may be a bit controversial but I wont be complying totally 

    We had agreed to meet as a family just 3 households as allowed on xmas eve and then all spend xmas day just in our own separate households 

    We are still going to do this it may be wrong but we will only be together for 1 evening a few hours but just not on the day they say we can 
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 3,334

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    @janer1967 Thank you for sharing this and I'm pleased to hear you aren't struggling.  If you ever do begin to, please give us a shout.  

    For those who want a refresher of the updated Christmas rules, visit this government webpage
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,651 Listener
    I think Johnson's a Clown who needs to shut up, people WILL defy the rules this weekend, surely the government knows this?


  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,648 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2020
    It’s all doom and gloom isn’t it?

    Even when there is something positive to report they have to find something negative about it and focus in on that.

    I wonder how morale would have fared if we had the current news organisations we have now during WW2. They would constantly be reporting on things like the strength and innovation of the enemy and how well they were doing compared to us!

    I cope with it all by not reading or watching the news unless there is something I am specifically looking for. I figure that if something is important enough, I will hear about it without looking for it. It works well and I just get the basic info I need rather than reading lots into something and worrying myself about it. 

    I also tend to be mindful of the sources I use for my information. I tend to go as direct as I can for my information rather than relying on the news outlets to pass it on neutrally.
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 3,334

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    @66Mustang That's a healthy approach to it.  I think it's easy for our news intake to creep up via exposure to social media and 24/7 news outlets.  Being able to recognise when it's having a detrimental impact on our emotional wellbeing is crucial. 

    I'm a big advocate of going outside for walks (or wheels) just to clear our heads.  Infact I spotted that was one of the tips in today's Guardian article about 'coping with the covid Christmas blues'. 
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  • GrinchyGrinchy Member Posts: 318 Pioneering
    its really a downer on the news, i watch bbc news a lot, and the doom and gloom is a bit much, we were going away to wales for the Christmas period, that's now been cancelled, never mind, theres people really suffering, thankfully we will be ok, i hope everyone has a great christmas, wishing you all the best from my home to yours
  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,648 Disability Gamechanger
    @Cher_Scope I also think it’s really healthy to go out for a walk/wheel. I am lucky to be able to walk the dog about 3 miles a day and it is my time to not think about much and relax and talk to the person I am walking with (as I do always have to go with somebody else). Aside from going for a drive I think it’s the highlight of my day.

    @Grinchy that’s a great attitude - there is always someone worse off than yourself. I like that and am trying to consider it over Christmas as I am really lucky in that my family all live together anyway so our plans aren’t disrupted but I’m aware scores of peoples’ are.
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    @Grinchy Agh, I'm sorry your Wales plans have been cancelled.  I hope you are still able to have a special time at home and I wish you the bestest of Christmasses  :)

    @66Mustang I'm with you there.  A good drive singing along to some very loud music does wonders!
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  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 3,735 Disability Gamechanger
    It won't really change our Christmas, I am concerned that its likely the whole of England will be in tier 4 next week, my thoughts go out to the NHS staff who are facing a double whammy of being extra busy as ever at this time of year plus now almost 20,000 covid patients to look after. N.i. has the right idea their people will be limited to one day of relaxed restricitions but they can choose any day from 23-27th to cater for those working on xmas day.

    Somebody ^ said that Johnsons a clown who needs to shut up, that's not very constructive is it? Personally I think the govt. are doing the best they can in terrible circumstances.

    As for coping with the news i'm ok, we are doing everything we can to stay safe and to make sure those around us are staying safe, at a time like this we all need to pull together and look out for one another x
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  • GrinchyGrinchy Member Posts: 318 Pioneering
    @66Mustang, cheers, hope you have a decent christmas
    @Cher_Scope, no worries, we have each other, glad of that, cheers!
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 873 Pioneering
    Im not doing so good I have been hearing voices most of the day had to have my head phones in to drown out the noise . I’m in tier 3 but my family are in tier 4 watching the news makes me so uneasy to what’s going on in this world it feels like one episode of pychosis part from its real all this is happening , 
  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 3,735 Disability Gamechanger
    @cupcake88 there is one very positive in all of this we now have a vaccine, 500,000 people have already had the first shot and there is light at the end of the tunnel, if the news is making you uneasy then do what my wife does and don't watch it, she relies on me for the edited highlights as she worries about it all.
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  • chiariedschiarieds Member Posts: 7,958 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2020
    I rarely watch the news, but do check the government's website, & have looked at the links given above.
    Our plans for Christmas have changed again. As my daughter-in-law is working Christmas Day, they were going to come around to have their Christmas dinner with me on Boxing Day. This has now reverted back to they'll get a 'takeaway' dinner from me instead, after talking to my son tonight. They are in my 'bubble.'
    I'm in part disappointed, but I know my son is only trying to look after me, so I'm very fortunate. We should all try to keep our loved ones safe, which will help others too. The restrictions are there for a purpose, to stop even more lives being lost.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    To be honest the rules don't really affect me. I'm in a bubble with my daughter and grandson and have been for quite a few months now. I don't see anyone else and have no friends where i live. They will still be at mine for Christmas dinner and again on boxing day for an evening buffet.




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  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 3,161

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    cupcake88 said:
    Im not doing so good I have been hearing voices most of the day had to have my head phones in to drown out the noise . I’m in tier 3 but my family are in tier 4 watching the news makes me so uneasy to what’s going on in this world it feels like one episode of pychosis part from its real all this is happening , 
    I hope you're feeling better today @cupcake88.
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  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 1,257 Disability Gamechanger
    The news about Christmas changes won't affect me.  But the news about the new more easily transmittable strain & the introduction of a Tier 4 hasn't gone down well.   I'm dreading January, won't be able to cope with another 'proper' lockdown if we end up in Tier 4.  I do feel for anyone that was suddenly plunged into it without warning on Sunday.

    As with others on here, I rarely watch the news any more.  I hear the headlines on the radio and just watch the briefings when we're expecting something big.
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    cupcake88 said:
    Im not doing so good I have been hearing voices most of the day had to have my head phones in to drown out the noise . I’m in tier 3 but my family are in tier 4 watching the news makes me so uneasy to what’s going on in this world it feels like one episode of pychosis part from its real all this is happening , 
    Hi @cupcake88

    How are you doing today?  Do you feel you are getting enough support with your mental health at the moment?  If this is something you'd prefer to discuss privately then please email us at [email protected]  Otherwise, be sure to let us know if you ever need help.  I hope you are having a better day. 
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  • WestHam06WestHam06 Member, Scope Volunteer Posts: 1,261 Pioneering
    edited December 2020
    Hi @Cher_Scope,
                                  I am coping thank you. I hope everyone here on the community is ok and receiving the support they need. My heart goes out to all the people who now will be on their own at Christmas but hope that they have access to technology to help ensure they are able to stay connected to people. I also feel for our wonderful NHS staff who have already been through so much and are going to be facing a very difficult winter. My thoughts and condolences go out to all the thousands of families who have lost loved ones this year. It makes me sad that, though the majority of people are being respectful of the rules, there are a minority who are not. I just don't understand how some people can just carry on doing whatever they want whilst there is so much suffering happening. As @woodbine said, there is a vaccine on the way and there is light at the end of the tunnel, we just need to support one another and look out for each other in the week's and months that lay ahead. My Christmas wish is that those who have or are experiencing difficult times are able to receive the support they need. Thank you. 

  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 3,334

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    @WestHam06 Thank you for that kind, thoughtful message  <3   There are glimmers of hope and its important to remember that this tough time will pass and is only temporary.   
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  • WestHam06WestHam06 Member, Scope Volunteer Posts: 1,261 Pioneering
    Thank you @Cher_Scope, much appreciated. I hope that you too are coping as with all the wonderful staff at Scope. You all do an amazing job and I personally would like to thank you for all that you do. Thank you.
  • WelliWelli Member Posts: 5 Listener
    I don't come on here much but none of the 'bubble' plans work for me a I'm on my lonesome and it seems that we don't really fit in with the government guidelines.  I have been at home since March and whilst I do take my car for a spin, I don't get out of the car.  Together with all that, my Mother passed away and I had to watch her funeral last Friday on the computer after having sent the eulogy by tape to the funeral directors.  I don't think those who are creating the regulations think about those who live on their own and are able to put themselves into bubbles when they are new to the area.  Not easy but I am coping :).

    Hope you all have a good Christmas no matter how you are managing to celebrate but for me I will be with me, myself and I :).
  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 3,735 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Welli I'm sorry to hear about your loss and you have my sympathy I'm sorry you weren't able to attend the funeral, Its going to be an unusual Christmas for many this year, but being on your own can't be easy. If you want a chat and a bit of company I know that some of us will be popping in and out of here over the holiday period so feel free to pull up a seat and join in.
    Wishing you all the best, and hoping that next year will be better for all of us.
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  • Tori_ScopeTori_Scope Posts: 4,010

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    Hi everyone! I hope you're all managing okay. I just wanted to share with you Scope's reaction to the tier 4 announcements:
    Despite the fact two thirds of all those who’ve died were disabled people there was no mention by the Prime Minister of what support and protections will be available for disabled people living in Tier 4.

    Asked why people who are shielding are still being made to go into their workplaces in Tier 3 areas, the Prime Minister and Chief Medical Officer’s vague and inadequate response is indicative of the government forgetting the needs of disabled people throughout this pandemic.

    This response reinforces disabled people’s sense of being abandoned by government and that their lives are seen as expendable.

    Furlough remains down to employer discretion, which means some disabled people at higher risk of the virus are having to choose between their life and livelihood.

    Many disabled people are also worried about how they will access food and essentials over the Christmas period. Supermarket delivery slots are now scarce and disabled shoppers are facing the risk of visiting stores at a time when the R rate is rising rapidly.

    There must be urgent action to address this. Disabled people have been among the hardest hit all year, with many spending months shielding away from loved ones.

    As we face the emergence of this new strain, the government must put in place a clear plan for how it will protect and support disabled people, to prevent thousands more avoidable deaths.
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  • 66Mustang66Mustang Member Posts: 4,648 Disability Gamechanger
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    edited December 2020
    @Tori_Scope it's a well known fact the current government hates the disabled, look at all the needless deaths when the ATOS Clowns, sponsored by the Conservatives, declare people who clearly aren't, fit to work and these people then get their benefits cut and go on to top themselves because they can no longer cope?!

    Yup, the Tories have innocent blood on their hands IMHO.

    What gets me as well, is that 5 years ago they declared me unfit to work, even though I've spent the last 20 odd years doing College placements and voluntary jobs so is it not possible I could work in SOME capacity even though I refuse on principle to be placed in some 2 quid a day non job specifically for disabled clients?!


  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 3,735 Disability Gamechanger
    There are no 2 quid a day jobs ! i don't think the "current" tory govt has done anything positive or negative for disabled people, although I would agree that the 2010-2019 govts didn't cover themselves in glory.
    It's true that ATOS and their friends have made some poor decisions BUT they have also made far more good ones than bad.
     @MrAllen1976 if you think you could work have you tried doing so?
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,651 Listener
    woodbine said:
    There are no 2 quid a day jobs ! i don't think the "current" tory govt has done anything positive or negative for disabled people, although I would agree that the 2010-2019 govts didn't cover themselves in glory.
    It's true that ATOS and their friends have made some poor decisions BUT they have also made far more good ones than bad.
     @MrAllen1976 if you think you could work have you tried doing so?
    I haven't worked since around the beginning of March, I had a job at Aspire Sheffield as an eBay assistant and PC builder, but because I'm not good with my hands I can't build PCs and there was a significant lack of demand for eBay services so they let me go.

    I've applied for several jobs in between but as soon as I declare my disability, especially the Asperger's, I get rejected! I wouldn't mind but it's supposed to be illegal that!

  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 3,735 Disability Gamechanger
    woodbine said:
    There are no 2 quid a day jobs ! i don't think the "current" tory govt has done anything positive or negative for disabled people, although I would agree that the 2010-2019 govts didn't cover themselves in glory.
    It's true that ATOS and their friends have made some poor decisions BUT they have also made far more good ones than bad.
     @MrAllen1976 if you think you could work have you tried doing so?
    I haven't worked since around the beginning of March, I had a job at Aspire Sheffield as an eBay assistant and PC builder, but because I'm not good with my hands I can't build PCs and there was a significant lack of demand for eBay services so they let me go.

    I've applied for several jobs in between but as soon as I declare my disability, especially the Asperger's, I get rejected! I wouldn't mind but it's supposed to be illegal that!

    so not 2 quid jobs then?
    my advice is given freely and is correct to the best of my knowledge.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,651 Listener
    woodbine said:
    woodbine said:
    There are no 2 quid a day jobs ! i don't think the "current" tory govt has done anything positive or negative for disabled people, although I would agree that the 2010-2019 govts didn't cover themselves in glory.
    It's true that ATOS and their friends have made some poor decisions BUT they have also made far more good ones than bad.
     @MrAllen1976 if you think you could work have you tried doing so?
    I haven't worked since around the beginning of March, I had a job at Aspire Sheffield as an eBay assistant and PC builder, but because I'm not good with my hands I can't build PCs and there was a significant lack of demand for eBay services so they let me go.

    I've applied for several jobs in between but as soon as I declare my disability, especially the Asperger's, I get rejected! I wouldn't mind but it's supposed to be illegal that!

    so not 2 quid jobs then?
    In 2008 I did 3 days at a job Mum got me at Reclaim, a local recycling place, the job was supposed to be specifically for the disabled but can someone kindly explain to me how in God's name working in a messy, noisy, stood up all day recycling Plant is suitable for a guy like me with back problems?!

    On the 3rd day, the Manager presented me with a "pay packet" containing 6 quid, for 3 full 8 hour days of work, the equivalent of 25p an hour, and it took all my strength not to throw it back and not go on a long rant about the inequality of doing THAT for 2 quid a day for 3 days, I did resign though and told him I didn't wanna do it any more as I physically couldn't do it.


  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 873 Pioneering
    @Cher_Scope hi cheer my health is up and down thanks for asking for Xmas I got some Lego and some arts and crafts which has helped me to distract my self With my illness . My medication was upped recently . 

    Thanks so much for checking I’m ok very kind of you x

  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 873 Pioneering
    I find soon as you say you suffer with pychosis that’s it you haven’t got the job that’s what I found till recently I was offered a cleaning job by some one who knew I had mental illnesses and they were really understanding I just wasn’t ready to be working so there are some nice understanding people out there so don’t quit job hunting I would always be honest in a interview regarding my disability . 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,651 Listener
    cupcake88 said:
    I find soon as you say you suffer with pychosis that’s it you haven’t got the job that’s what I found till recently I was offered a cleaning job by some one who knew I had mental illnesses and they were really understanding I just wasn’t ready to be working so there are some nice understanding people out there so don’t quit job hunting I would always be honest in a interview regarding my disability . 
    Back in September this year I applied and got an interview for a job at the Co Op in Shiregreen, a pain to get to but I'd have crossed that Bridge if need be.

    Apparently the only reason I got an interview was because the Co Op do a guaranteed interview for disabled applicants, this was my second Co Op interview as I had one last July at the one in Crookes for the new one on Oldfield Road, would've been great as Mum and Dad are always in there buying stuff as it's their local one, only reason I didn't get the job was because I'm on enhanced rate PIP so I can't work more than 16 hours, or so I thought, it was a 16 hour contract with scope for regular overtime, I lost the job because I had to declare that I couldn't do the overtime without severe benefit sanctions!

    And the government wonders why there's guys out there working 50-60 hours a week and not declaring it? Jesus wept.



  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 873 Pioneering
    @MrAllen1976 are you only on pip ? Because you can work any hours on pip think it’s ESA where you can only do 16 hours . Would you not try applying at the coop again ? I wish I could work 50/60 hours couldn’t even work 5 minutes with my anxiety and lack of concentration. I hope to be able to try work again in the summer but I can only work like a few hours a week I couldn’t ever see me holding down a regular job . 

    I was hoping that after my therapy is complete I can learn to cope with my illness better . 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,651 Listener
    cupcake88 said:
    @MrAllen1976 are you only on pip ? Because you can work any hours on pip think it’s ESA where you can only do 16 hours . Would you not try applying at the coop again ? I wish I could work 50/60 hours couldn’t even work 5 minutes with my anxiety and lack of concentration. I hope to be able to try work again in the summer but I can only work like a few hours a week I couldn’t ever see me holding down a regular job . 

    I was hoping that after my therapy is complete I can learn to cope with my illness better . 
    I know that now, but back when I had the first interview up at Crookes Co Op last July I didn't and had to declare it, which cost me the job.


  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 873 Pioneering
    oh that’s a shame just because you couldn’t do over time . 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,651 Listener
    cupcake88 said:
    oh that’s a shame just because you couldn’t do over time . 
    I can apply to the Co Op again around March next year.
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