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Have goverment decided yet Bout the extra 20 pounds

Just need an update really on what they are doing for people on uc credit.. I'm classed has vulnerable and had goverment letter advising me to stay at home, I'm also on pip, I dont have any family to rely on, and it's been hard during this pandemic.. just bed to know what the goverment are doing, because that extra 20 a week comes in handy, especially because I'm unable to work at the moment and havent for a long time because of.my mental health
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Personally I don't buy the idea that people on legacy benefits would be annoyed after all so far we have missed out on around £800.
Just because I said I heard something been said and quoted online, doesn't mean I don't know what's going on.
The consequence is that people read these stories and believe something is about to happen when literally nothing will. I would be genuinely amazed if there was any decision on this until after mid March.
Agreed, however the points WE ALL were making, was generally, no specifics to disabled individuals.
So i agree that we wont know until we know! This is frustrating because if they take the £20 away i will struggle even more as most will.
They really should not float ideas around that would get peoples hopes up unless they are going honour those ideas! I knew they would muck around with it then crush peoples hopes.we shall see i guess
I'm not going to comment on the subject matter as it seems like it's already been covered. However I will touch on the tone of some of the posts in this discussion. As ever, when reading and writing posts please remember that tone on a forum is very subjective and it is easy to misinterpret or misconvey meaning.
It's rare that someone is meaning to cause offence and I think it's wise for us all to take a step back from time to time and let cooler heads prevail.
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https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/welfare-rights/news/item/20-benefit-uplift-must-be-maintained-for-another-year-at-the-very-least-say-mps
I also think it's worth adding that sometimes people get bogged down in these discussions to the extent that we focus on essentially completely the wrong thing. Keeping the £20 UC increase is obviously important but the wider issue is that so many people struggled for years without it until last year anyway i.e. the basic amounts of UC are not sufficient anyway and yet the campaigning on that more fundamental issue is near silent. There are literally people who will see it as a huge triumph if the £20 is retained for a further 12 months. In the wider context it's hard to see it as anything but a failure of ambition.
UC does not provide enough to meet basic needs with or without the £20. The poverty line has long since been abolished in the UK and the advent of benefit freezes; the benefit cap and sanctions have only made the overall position worse than any £20 rise can possibly fix.
Yet I am still happy to find another job and work because I like working but I don't feel like I am on the poverty line not as a person with dissbility I feel very lucky I am aware that people eithout disability do get less money
But at least we are better off than some countries who don't get benefits or help with housing and have to pay medical bills
In my own opinion I think the UK do pretty well ☺
However the impact of benefits on different people varies so you can't draw a general conclusion from one case. I am more inclined to Mike's view. Third party studies generally highlight how difficult it is to live on benefits and how much stress is caused struggling to balance needs and finances.
Put even more simply it really isn't good enough that this is happening in the worlds 5th richest nation.
This isn't something new its been going on for decades now.
If I was earning I would have to pay council tax and most of my rent I belive that has been said that alot of people in benefits do struggle after my bills have gone out what they call disposable income I have 300.00 when I worked and paid rent and council tax and my bills my disposable income was 50.00 both figures monthly
In my case even though I do want to work and I am on scope job support I am better off than my last paid job
I just wanted to put another view on the situation
But over all if you are on just a normal single person benefit I think those are the ones that suffer the post
For example, someone under 25 on UC waiting for their assessment will be living off just £256.05 a month and likely won't be getting full rent paid. Add a 1-year-old to their household and their income is just £491.88 a month for them both to live off, while often having to top up rent, etc.
£256 for all bills, food, clothes and potentially a rent top-up is pretty low - and lots of disabled people find they are awarded LCW (so no extra money), so that is the reality for many of them too.
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There was a good programme on called living on benefits about two years ago there were a family of 8 livring on benefits and with all their benefits and their rent being paid and monthly money they were getting was nearly three thousand a month
They were going on holiday had the best of everything
Poverty shouldn't be happening in this day age but people value you money in different ways and have different ideas about what is essential
When I was younger I lived on the streets for two years people say sorry it hapend to me but I am not sorry I learnt alot I still had food sometimes had good shelter sometimes bad but there were akways people to talk to people to help still had the bit of money back then you would queue for your daily giro outside the job center so you could go abd fet your bit of food
They were actually probably what I would call the better days if my life where I learnt to value life
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As a reminder, here is the opening post of the discussion, by @bevvy40
"Just need an update really on what they are doing for people on uc credit.. I'm classed has vulnerable and had goverment letter advising me to stay at home, I'm also on pip, I dont have any family to rely on, and it's been hard during this pandemic.. just bed to know what the goverment are doing, because that extra 20 a week comes in handy, especially because I'm unable to work at the moment and havent for a long time because of.my mental health
Have goverment decided yet Bout the extra 20 pound"
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https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-02-09/debates/50814D06-6F47-44D9-954B-EA5D4171C2B1/SocialSecurity
“discussions remain ongoing with Her Majesty’s Treasury and a decision on the future of the £20 universal credit uplift will be taken by the Chancellor of the Exchequer in due course.”
And people say there is no poverty in the UK ?
I'm going to e mail my tory MP and demand he votes for retaining the £20, his name is Richard Head !
link to story:
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/homeless-teams-photo-huge-soup-19811740
The government need to put more money into the homeless campaign when corona virus first started the government got them off the streets so corona virus didn't spread
Why can't they do it now ??
People can also volunteer in homeless shelters and going out on the streets to make sure rough sleepers are ok the government need to do more
@lisathomas50 They are some good ideas for how to help but I'm inclined to agree, the government have a responsibility to do more.
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Its not always a choice to live on the streets its situations safer on the street than at home mental health there are many reasons as @woodbine said its better to give a pound than miss someone who is realy in need