So it turns out DWP Debt Management DOESN'T necessarily seize your backdated PIP pay....

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I posted a question yesterday asking whether DWP will use my backdated pay on my new PIP Award to clear an alleged Income Support overpayment from the 1990s.  I’ve just been told by PIP today that they’ve issued my arrears straight to my bank account already and it’ll be there by Friday.

Interesting that they didn’t seize this payment isn’t it?!

thatsmyname

ThankGod i had the same happen.i allegedly owe 10,000 pounds tax credit overpayments from ten years ago! I know that i couldnt possibly owe that but cant prove it so they have been taking 77 oound a month of uc.i got 2 backdated pip payments totalling over a 1000 each in my bank last year 

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thatsmyname said:

ThankGod i had the same happen.i allegedly owe 10,000 pounds tax credit overpayments from ten years ago! I know that i couldnt possibly owe that but cant prove it so they have been taking 77 oound a month of uc.i got 2 backdated pip payments totalling over a 1000 each in my bank last year 

Sorry to hear that they are hounding you for money you don't even owe.  But I'm very pleased to hear that you still got your backdated PIP through just fine!!!! Nice one

thatsmyname

ThankGod im hoping that the 3000 pound packdated lcwra they hopefully owe me goes same way! And thankyou.

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@thatsmyname
What was your PIP assessment experience like by the way? 
DWP only received the assessment report last Wednesday and they'd already made their decision and awarded me PIP as of yesterday.  That's very quick!

thatsmyname

ThankGod my experience was just as straight forward really.i was awarded daily living standard rate.the money went in really quick it was in before i got my letter! I had to do mandatory reconsideration over the phone for mobility and i was then awarded that too so got that backdated too.i have just lodged appeal as i should have scored more points for enhanced so will see how it goes i guess 

mikehughescq

So, what I said then

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mikehughescq said:

So, what I said then

Yes.  And I am very relieved.  But I wonder why *some* people actually DO seem to get their PIP arrears taken off them?

thatsmyname

I suppose it could depend on if the claimant has history of not repaying maybe? Or if they dont generally claim for long meaning they cant recover it by taking deductions.but they are just guesses on my part.

mikehughescq

DWP will periodically get away with stuff if unchallenged.

thatsmyname

Indeed rules are made up to suit them.i desperately hope i get my lcwra backdate though.i need to move home for the sake of my sanity!

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I hope you get your backdated LCWRA @thatsmyname
I'm gonna go for SDP now.  My PIP award is backdated to July 2020, so technically I was on PIP back when I was on ESA which means they owe me SDP for that period.  I then had to transition from ESA to UC LCWRA due to a change of circumstances.  This means I should be getting the transitional top-up payment added to my UC. 

thatsmyname

ThankGod i hope you get what you are owed also.... fingers crossed we both get what we are owed.better in our pockets than theirs! 

thatsmyname

ThankGod i had a note on my journal today saying im owed £3,495 but as i apparently owe 10,000 pounds tax credit overpayments from ten years ago its gone to debt management team for them to make a decision on wether it will be deducted from the debt or paid to me...i am currently already making the monthly repayments on this.i rung them obviously in a right state...and explained that basically i cant move to a safer home without the money! A note has been put on system stating this and that i was highly distressed.the lady on phone was lovely and she agreed they may be able to give me it ive to ring next week to speak to a decision maker so i hope to God they decide in my favour.ive seen the most perfect house in the perfect place...i just want a garden with a fence around so i feel more protected and private.i am not getting it here and this street is dangerous.i fear for my life daily i hate it here.

lisalocket43

Hi I’m new here, I’m waiting for my MR decision on pip, I scored 6 points dl and 4 mobility but because I work, my mental health part they are saying that basically if I can work a standard till in a postsge stamped sized papershop couple hrs a week, I’m ok, I keep my job because it really helps to push me to interact more, yes it does challenge my anxiety very much, I wonder if anyone knows what are my chances of being awarded? I’m so low and worried sick over things I feel I’m being discriminated for trying to work. Tia xx

mikehughescq

We’d need to know which specific points you were going for in order to begin to give you an answer. 

Would also be useful to know what your hours are. Not directly relevant to PIP as there’s no hours rule but there is a general principle around what’s called de minim0s activity i.e. if you do so something so little it can’t reasonably even count as work. Good example of this would be where someone works an hour at lunch time in a sandwich shop. Aside from working a till, if they were at home they’d essentially be doing the same thing for lunch.

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lisalocket43 said:

Hi I’m new here, I’m waiting for my MR decision on pip, I scored 6 points dl and 4 mobility but because I work, my mental health part they are saying that basically if I can work a standard till in a postsge stamped sized papershop couple hrs a week, I’m ok, I keep my job because it really helps to push me to interact more, yes it does challenge my anxiety very much, I wonder if anyone knows what are my chances of being awarded? I’m so low and worried sick over things I feel I’m being discriminated for trying to work. Tia xx

I'm thinking it would make more sense to start your own thread about this as it's not connected to the question I have raised in this post at all.

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thatsmyname said:

ThankGod i had a note on my journal today saying im owed £3,495 but as i apparently owe 10,000 pounds tax credit overpayments from ten years ago its gone to debt management team for them to make a decision on wether it will be deducted from the debt or paid to me...i am currently already making the monthly repayments on this.i rung them obviously in a right state...and explained that basically i cant move to a safer home without the money! A note has been put on system stating this and that i was highly distressed.the lady on phone was lovely and she agreed they may be able to give me it ive to ring next week to speak to a decision maker so i hope to God they decide in my favour.ive seen the most perfect house in the perfect place...i just want a garden with a fence around so i feel more protected and private.i am not getting it here and this street is dangerous.i fear for my life daily i hate it here.

I'm sorry to hear that and it is so weird considering that they let you receive your other backdated pay just fine!  I wonder why they let you have the PIP backdated payment but are playing games when it comes to what you're owed for ESA?

thatsmyname

ThankGod the lady at dwp debt management said this is because pip isnt treat the same as universal credit 

thatsmyname

lisalocket43 my mother works reduced hours in an eldery care home.she has limited mobility and suffers with multiple muscular skeletal issues and severe depression but she was awarded pip daily living and also pip mobility.this was after a mandatory reconsideration.she does reduced hours and amended duties but shes still doing lots of physical work there.shes stubborn and wont leave her job 

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thatsmyname said:

ThankGod the lady at dwp debt management said this is because pip isnt treat the same as universal credit 

Oh I see!  So they make an exception for PIP because it's a disability benefit?
But when you think about it the LCWRA is also like a disability benefit in that it is only awarded to people deemed very seriously unwell