How to prove mental health affects your life when first claiming PIP

Lisatho11987777

Hi I am asking the question as I am assisting someone in my community 

I want to help this person the best way I can as a physical disability is different 

When filling in the form  I know how to describe the affects of this person's mental health but need the best way of describing how it affects this person going out planning a journey and things like that please 

I am probably over thinking it and is probably similar to describing how a physical disability affects someone 

Lisatho11987777

That suposed to say pip 

Lisatho11987777

@woodbine thank you  thats fantastic  I was over thinking  it doesn't matter if its physical or mental health 

Thank you so much  that has realy helped ?

Lisatho11987777

@woodbine form done your advice was a tremendous  help  and it was quite easy once I stopped over thinking  

It was electronic  I learnt how to use zoom on the laptop so I can split the screen they can see me and see the form I am filling in  all went well 

Again thank you ?

Ross_Alumni

I have changed the thread title for you @lisathomas50, it says PIP now  

Lisatho11987777

@Ross_Scope thank you

cupcake88

@lisathomas50

Hi I get pip purely for mental illness I have no physical disabilities just all mental illnesss . Of course every ones illnesses are  different and how my mental illness affects  my life might affect your Friend differently . But I can share my experiences as some one with mental illness who gets pips . When I filled out my pip form I was really ill I was in crisis at that time I did get help filling the form out . 

So for example say the getting ready and washing question for example . I struggle to get washed and dressed with out assistance and I need constantly reminding embarrassing to say my partner has to wash me most of the time and constantly encourage me to change my clothes again as it embarrasses me to say when I’m having a really bad few weeks hearing voices and seeing things I don’t think to get dressed or washed it’s not that I can’t physically do it my mental illness takes over and I’m just really distressed by what I’m seeing or hearing or my paranoid thoughts hope that example helps . 

Another example when it comes to preparing and cooking food my partner leaves me out a sandwich /or some buffet snacks foods when he’s goes to work or he makes me a salad and he will have to remind me to eat it Or I’ll just eat sweets . I won’t touch a oven As I’m scared to turn one on as I get so many paranoid thoughts rushing threw my head so I just explained every thing how I’m explaining it now to how each section effects me I would explain it and my partner wrote down what I was saying on the forms . My anxiety my ocd my ptsd And my pychosis stops me from completing every day normal tasks . I haven’t brushed my hair in like a month it’s gone all tangled again I won’t even let my partner brush it . It’s embarrassing for me to say but I hope it helps others with mental illness who are filling out pip forms or people with mental illness in general . I would advise your friend to get some to write down how each question relates to her/his life I have given a few examples based on my life hope that helps .

also I sent off care plans from the crisis team they had care plans that documented how my illness affects me . 

Also my partner took time to write how my mental illnesses effects my day to day living using all the pip discriptors . I think if you have some one who knows you well write bout how your disability effects you I think that helps also to send off .  I hope this all helps . 

Lisatho11987777

@cupcake88 thank you that helps alot 

lpea

cupcake88 said:

@lisathomas50

Hi I get pip purely for mental illness I have no physical disabilities just all mental illnesss . Of course every ones illnesses are  different and how my mental illness affects  my life might affect your Friend differently . But I can share my experiences as some one with mental illness who gets pips . When I filled out my pip form I was really ill I was in crisis at that time I did get help filling the form out . 

So for example say the getting ready and washing question for example . I struggle to get washed and dressed with out assistance and I need constantly reminding embarrassing to say my partner has to wash me most of the time and constantly encourage me to change my clothes again as it embarrasses me to say when I’m having a really bad few weeks hearing voices and seeing things I don’t think to get dressed or washed it’s not that I can’t physically do it my mental illness takes over and I’m just really distressed by what I’m seeing or hearing or my paranoid thoughts hope that example helps . 

Another example when it comes to preparing and cooking food my partner leaves me out a sandwich /or some buffet snacks foods when he’s goes to work or he makes me a salad and he will have to remind me to eat it Or I’ll just eat sweets . I won’t touch a oven As I’m scared to turn one on as I get so many paranoid thoughts rushing threw my head so I just explained every thing how I’m explaining it now to how each section effects me I would explain it and my partner wrote down what I was saying on the forms . My anxiety my ocd my ptsd And my pychosis stops me from completing every day normal tasks . I haven’t brushed my hair in like a month it’s gone all tangled again I won’t even let my partner brush it . It’s embarrassing for me to say but I hope it helps others with mental illness who are filling out pip forms or people with mental illness in general . I would advise your friend to get some to write down how each question relates to her/his life I have given a few examples based on my life hope that helps .

also I sent off care plans from the crisis team they had care plans that documented how my illness affects me . 

Also my partner took time to write how my mental illnesses effects my day to day living using all the pip discriptors . I think if you have some one who knows you well write bout how your disability effects you I think that helps also to send off .  I hope this all helps . 

Hi i feel I am in a similar situation to you. Can you please tell me whether you had an assessment, what form it was in and how long it took to get it?

Cress

I did find it hard filling in the form for my anxiety and depression.
I could easily provide examples of what happened when I went out, what happened when I mixed with people and the problems with daily tasks.

The question about preparing and eating food, bathing and dressing were harder as the answer to all of these was I mostly don't do these things...so I couldn't give examples of happened when I attempted them.
I spoke about lack of motivation, anxiety,  zero appetite etc. But couldn't provide any info as to what happened when I attempted these...I just wouldn't, couldn't.

poppy123456

lpea said:

Hi i feel I am in a similar situation to you. Can you please tell me whether you had an assessment, what form it was in and how long it took to get it?

Most people have either telephone or face to face assessments. Paper based assessments are still rare. I see from another thread of yours that you did apply for PIP in the past but you were refused. Timescales from stating your claim to having a decision is about 10 months because backlogs are huge.

What you really should do is get some expert advice before applying again because if you apply again using the same evidence you previously used then a refusal is likely. For expert advice, start here. https://advicelocal.uk/

ginge05

hi I am applying for Pip as I am a veteran and suffer from hearing loss and PTSD,along with dyspraxia and dyslexia. I have been diagnosed with hearing loss but as I have always "soldiered on" not for PTHD. I have spoken to doctor with regards to this but have not had much help. Would anybody know if I need to get a private examination done of all my problems in order to prove my probems.

could anybody advise on how to fill the form best, my symptoms for mental health are mainly i have about 2 days a week where I have no motivation to do anyting along with anger, focus, concentrtion

OverlyAnxious

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/964375#Comment_964375

Hi,

You don't need any medical examination or diagnosis for PIP. It is entirely based on your ability to complete the tasks in the descriptors.

PIP is based on you abilities over the majority of days. So if you are able to complete tasks for 5 days a week, and only unable to complete them for 2 days a week, then I'm afraid you won't be eligible for PIP.

Here is a list of the descriptors if you haven't already seen them. You need at least 8 points in the Daily Living and/or Mobility section for a standard rate award.

PIP - table of activities, descriptors and points

ginge05

Thankyou so much for this it is really helpfull, I will have a good look at the descriptions