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Hi I'm nicnocs! What happens after tribunal application? What's the waiting time in different areas?

nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
edited February 16 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi I applied for pip in August. I got turned down and 0 points I was shocked as I suffer from severe depression and anxiety and am basically housebund. So I asked for a MR and came back the same 0 points.
I have now decided to take it to tribunal. I felt so upset and judged my someone who said I was fine by just a phone call.
I contacted citizens advice and I have someone to represent me. Alot of the info on the MR was wrong and she has done a good letter and sent it off to tribunal.
My question is will DWP look at it again before tribunal?
Whats happens next after tribunal application?
Also is the waiting times different for different areas?
Due to my mental health i feel like I can't move on with anything until this is sorted. Its constantly on my mind.
Thank you for reading.
Any advise woukd be great x

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  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 3,749 Disability Gamechanger
    hi @nicnocs and welcome to scope, glad you found us.
    It has been known for the DWP to make an offer just before the tribunal hearing.
    But it's now best to concentrate on your appeal with the help CAB are offering.
    my advice is given freely and is correct to the best of my knowledge.
  • nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Hi woodbine is it different waiting times for different areas xxx
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 9,159 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi there 

    Yes waiting times are different in each area but as they are currently done mainly by phone the waiting times have reduced 

    B4 it could be anything in excess of 12 month wait the last I heard it was about 37 weeks average but that changes all time and again just an average 

    Fingers crossed let us know how you get on 
  • anxiousbirdanxiousbird Member Posts: 116 Courageous
    Hi @nicnocs
    im sorry to hear about your experience with assessment and MR. I really do hope that your application is successful at the tribunal and you get the money you deserve. I myself suffer from depression, anxiety, panic disorder, PTSD, agoraphobia. I’m awaiting assessment next week. I completely understand how you must be feeling; people don’t seem to appreciate what having a mental illness is like. 

    May I ask, did you send any specialist input with your application? For example, counselling or therapy sessions, medication list etc?
  • nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Yes I sent in a doctors letter. A report from my councillor giving the diagnosis of severe depression and anxiety. 
    Also my medication on 200mg daily of setriline (highest dose) and 10mg of diazepam daily.
    Also back in early part of 2020 I phoned social services as I need help with my children and myself. Family help got involved with me and also provided evidence.
    I sent in 2 specialist letters from neurology and cardiology as I'm under investigation due to low blood pressure.
    CAB have said they have taken no notice really and alot of what they had in the MR report was not correct.
    And don't even get me started on being able to drive a manual car stuff 🙄 
  • anxiousbirdanxiousbird Member Posts: 116 Courageous
    It’s really worrying and sad to see how these assessors treat people with mental health issues. I also applied for pip in 2019 but after getting rejected following a face2face assessment I just gave up as I was feeling so depressed and dejected after looking at the report. If only people knew how miserable it feels having to live with a mental illness. 
    How are you managing with the kids and what sort of support do you get with that? I’m over 30 and still can’t even think of having kids as I can’t even manage my own self let alone another human being 😰
    my husband really wants kids but he knows I can’t take care of them and we’re worried that it might mean that the kid is taken away from us 🙈
  • nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
    I applied back in 2015 and gave up like you for the same reasons.
    My anxiety started back in 2004 and I self meditated with alcohol for 9 years. My 2 children went to live with my mum.
    Back in 2016 they came back to live with me. My eldest has serveve mental illness too. Many suicide attempts. My depression got worse.
    Then at the beginning of last year my other daughter was having anger issues thats when I contacted social services as I also have a 3 year old.
    I then discovered she was being a victim of sexual abuse. And now have an ongoing police investigation to deal with.
    Family help have been there for us throughout all this by giving suggestions like opening up to each other and expressing our feelings daily.
    But all of this has been a nightmare for me. I've tried to be strong on the outside for them but inside I'm slowly dying.
    Hopelessness is the word.
    Mental health being a hidden illness is just awful.
    I totally understand hiw u feel x
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 3,161

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    Hi @nicnocs

    Welcome to the community, I'm sorry to read that you've had to go through a lot, you have our full support.

    I have sent you an email from [email protected], it would be great if you could give it a read :) 

    I hope you are finding your way around the community well enough, don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
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  • nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Thank you.
    Yes I have just received your email.
    My daughter was with chams now receiving adult psychotherapy.
    My other daughter is getting victim support as am I.

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,980 Disability Gamechanger
    At present waiting times have sunk like a stone. The 37 week average is now down to the target of 11 to 13 weeks depending on the area. That’s not necessarily a positive as it means you need to be very focussed on prepping; getting a rep etc. 
  • nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Is there a way of finding out by area. I live in woking Surrey x
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 3,161

    Scope community team

    nicnocs said:
    Thank you.
    Yes I have just received your email.
    My daughter was with chams now receiving adult psychotherapy.
    My other daughter is getting victim support as am I.

    I'm glad you are receiving support, hopefully it is working for you all.

    Please take note of everything we said in the email and respond to us if you have any further thoughts. 

    Take care :) 
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  • nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Thank you so much 💓 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,980 Disability Gamechanger
    nicnocs said:
    Is there a way of finding out by area. I live in woking Surrey x
    You can ring your local HMCTS office i.e. the people who sent your appeal papers out. However, not sure I see the point. It changes from week to week. Your focus should be on the quality of your case and getting representation rather than how quick it’s all going to happen.
  • nicnocsnicnocs Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Yes I understand that but head doesn't allow me to move on with other issues till one is resolved.
    I can't explain it 😔
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,980 Disability Gamechanger
    You just did explain it :)

    This won’t allow you to move on as, when you make the call, the call centre will give you x weeks. If you ring the next week it will be y weeks. When you hit x or y weeks you’ll then get anxious it hasn’t been listed because the length of time has changed again. There is nothing that can be resolved. I’ve seen the delay vary by as much as 20 weeks over a 13 week period. 

    Far better to focus on things you can achieve such as getting a rep.
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 3,161

    Scope community team

    Hi @nicnocs

    How are you doing today? 

    I hope you have found the comments from Mike helpful.
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  • anxiousbirdanxiousbird Member Posts: 116 Courageous
    nicnocs said:
    I applied back in 2015 and gave up like you for the same reasons.
    My anxiety started back in 2004 and I self meditated with alcohol for 9 years. My 2 children went to live with my mum.
    Back in 2016 they came back to live with me. My eldest has serveve mental illness too. Many suicide attempts. My depression got worse.
    Then at the beginning of last year my other daughter was having anger issues thats when I contacted social services as I also have a 3 year old.
    I then discovered she was being a victim of sexual abuse. And now have an ongoing police investigation to deal with.
    Family help have been there for us throughout all this by giving suggestions like opening up to each other and expressing our feelings daily.
    But all of this has been a nightmare for me. I've tried to be strong on the outside for them but inside I'm slowly dying.
    Hopelessness is the word.
    Mental health being a hidden illness is just awful.
    I totally understand hiw u feel x
    Ohh that must’ve been very hard for you 😰 I really hope and pray that you get what you rightfully deserve :) 
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