PIP backpay going to dwp debt management for overpaid benefits?

PrincessRuby

Hi, I’m new here and this is my first post and really hoping somebody/anybody can shed some light for me?
I had my PIP telephone assessment this morning, hoping for a good result. 

Before I ring next week and get my report sent out to me, I need to ask a question about (at the moment) a hypothetical question.
Last year I was overpaid my ESA payments due to a lapse in payments and my husband starting full time employment - I did phone the DWP and tell them he was starting work etc but the “advisor” never put it on the system!!
Now I’m not in receipt of any benefits, my question is about potential PIP backpay as I applied back in November so hoping I’ll be awarded what I’m entitled to. Will this money be sent to the DWP debt management team to clear the debt? Also, does it matter that my ESA claim stopped in October and I applied for PIP in the November so they don’t overlap at all?
Really hope that makes sense and someone can advise me! 

janer1967

Hi 

In answer sometimes it is the case that back pay will go to debt management and be used to clear the debt . Whether they are allowed to do this is another matter ? But they do sometimes try 

Have you had any contact about paying the money back or have any agreed payment plan ? 

PrincessRuby

Hi, 
Thank-you so much for your reply.
Yes, I’ve got a payment plan in place and currently looking into a DRO (which the debt management team are aware of). 

I know I’m still a long way off getting the outcome for the assessment this morning, but due to my anxiety I try and find out everything before the worst happens, so I can hopefully get some form of plan together. 

PrincessRuby

Hi @woodbine
ESA, I was the main claimant and my husband was my partner on the claim. 

I’m hoping they don’t try and take it as I have zero income now myself, so would be relying heavily on it. 

janer1967

They wont stop anything from your PIP payments if you get an award just from back pay 

Did you challenge the overpayment as if it was their error or may not be recoverable have you had any expert advice from welfare rights 

PrincessRuby

I never challenged the overpayment, as I thought because as I was overpaid (even though I alerted them of the change) I still owed the money. 

I’ve had advise through a debt charity for debts (as this isn’t the only debt owed) through poor financial decisions when my depression got seriously out of control a couple of years back unfortunately. 

I haven’t contacted welfare rights, but I will be doing judging by some of the comments about challenging the overpayment. 

I’m hoping the PIP backpay (assuming I get what I’m entitled to) doesn’t get swallowed by the debt management department of the DWP. 

PrincessRuby

@Username_removed thanks for the link! 

I have a repayment plan in place if that’s the agreement you mean?
I’ll definitely be looking in to challenging it!

kezdare

Username_removed said:

Start with this tool. https://advicelocal.uk/

DWP may try to claw back arrears via the lump sum but they cannot do so if an agreement is place and you should very much look at challenging recoverability. It does not follow that because you have been overpaid you must always pay it back. It certainly doesn't when you made a declaration. 

Hi all - I'm dealing with a very similar case and wondered if anyone knows if there is any legal basis for the DWP not being allowed to automatically put a backdate payment towards arrears when there is already an agreement in place, or whether it is just not the ''done'' thing? All suggestions will be checked so doesn't need to be perfect advice. Thank you in advance!

kezdare

Thank you @Username_removed! 

tez66

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/410016#Comment_410016

They have just done this with me so my back pay from pip went to dept management and they have swelled my back pay which I think is totally wrong when I have a repayment plan in place

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/956692#Comment_956692

This thread is more than 3 years old. If they have caused financial hardship you can contact debt management to tell them and to ask them not to take the debt you owe them from what they owe you. Also mention that you have a repayment plan and the debt is being repaid back.

tez66

I did but they said they would only refund half of it back to me x