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Women's safety

Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
I feel really sad saying this, but i dont see any way of making women feel safer. Violence is a horrible part of life these days. And by the way things are going, with kids carrying knives, will probably be guns soon, it's only going to get worse. The whole world seems to be getting more violent, look at governments and military coups. The way i see it, it has to start with governments and leaders, i know my government is making me really frustrated, and im not so bad off, the more they badly treat people, the more frustration, then violence. Everyone is a potential victim. I feel for women, but the bigger picture has to start with protecting our kids, happy kids grow up to be happy adults, in theory. 
I was brought up in a family of 7 women, respect is natural to me. 

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  • 66Mustang66Mustang Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,102 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 13
    Deleted as I read your post a bit wrong and was arguing against something you didn’t write

    But I do agree with some of what you say
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,534 Disability Gamechanger
    I posted on another thread on here yesterday that the number of murders in the UK had fallen in 2019 from 750(2018) to 675.
    I would have to disagree, this country isn't a violent place, much of the concern in recent days I suspect is because a serving policeman (allegedly) murdered someone, an unusual event to which we must be careful not to react with knee jerk reactions.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    I agree, this country is one of the safest in the world, the point i was trying to make, violent crimes are being committed more now by younger people. I have been thinking about when I was young, we had youth clubs. I've got 2 teenage sons, ive been lucky they've never been bothered about going out. My youngest is a computer geek, my oldest was robbed and left in a pool of blood when he was 14, he now suffers ptsd. Kids have nothing to do but walk the streets, this is a government creation. They can waste billions on ferry contracts, with no ferries!!!! Kids are our future, they should be any governments priority with funding. 
  • leeCalleeCal Member Posts: 3,711 Disability Gamechanger
    I feel really sad saying this, but i dont see any way of making women feel safer. 
    Do you not think that increasing bobbies on the beat would help? in pairs I hasten to add.
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    To be fair in a city or anything like that I wouldn't be out on my own day or night the last 12 months there has been more knife crime and rape  domestic abuse but is it that we know more about it happening because its lockdown  because all these type of crimes have always happend 



  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    Where children are concerned being brought up happy and secure  not every young person that commits crime came from a bad unhappy background 

    Some young prople committing  crimes come from a good back ground and have had a good life crime is about havring power and that no one tells them how to behave like to make people feel weak and vulnerable  some re offend  some don't 


  • vikingqueenvikingqueen Member Posts: 467 Pioneering
         When my son was about 15 he was stabbed in the head with a stanley knife and the tip is still in his skull some 25 years later. Had he not put his hand up in front of him his throat would have been slashed as well. It was a case of mistaken identity over a girl, the boy was also 15 and it turned out I'd known his dad for 30 years, a lovely family who were horrified what their son had done. We live in a small town where you wouldn't think twice about walking home alone in the dark, It doesn't matter where you are in the country, small town, big city if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time it can happen to anyone.
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    @vikingqueen very true I was brought up with when your time on this earth up its up 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,534 Disability Gamechanger
    I would add that I suspect before covid one of the problems with young men (teens) has been that schools are too hasty to suspend/expel trouble makers/under achievers, and they end up on the streets. It's a problem that needs to be addressed as we move forward.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    It's a vicious circle but something  has to break it 
  • vikingqueenvikingqueen Member Posts: 467 Pioneering
        The trouble starts with the youth of today have nothing to do. Tory cuts closed the youth clubs and the likes, it  all boils down to money and the powers that be don't want to spend it on the important things.
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    It's still not an excuse to turn to violence 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,534 Disability Gamechanger
    Had to laugh earlier the police at clapham common waited till the sun had gone down before they started to arrest those having a vigil, you really could not make it up.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    @woodbine oh god lol the world has gone mad 
  • Sandy_123Sandy_123 Member Posts: 1,541 Pioneering
    There's no respect any more is the problem, anyone is subject to an attack if in wrong place or wrong people around, a guy in next village by me got attacked by teenagers just for being there. Another man a few months months ago got attacked by a group, he was walking, they even rode mopeds over him. Again I think it's courts that need to step up, tougher sentences. 
  • scottishdannyscottishdanny Posts: 4 Member
    the main problem is there are too many snowflakes and lefties that take advantage of anything that happens to push there cause       yes what happened was shocking but its very rare in the uk        all you here about is equal rights for women till the usual crack pots pop up wanting rules for one sex only 
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    Im not talking about rules or causes, its about opinions on safety, especially for our kids. Any possible solutions are always welcome. 
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    woodbine said:
    Had to laugh earlier the police at clapham common waited till the sun had gone down before they started to arrest those having a vigil, you really could not make it up.
    How does risking more lives with these selfish meetings help anyone? Ill bet none of the crowd have lost anyone to this savage virus! It's not just their lives their playing with. Ive got no time what so ever for people who dont take this virus seriously. Me ,as well as millions of others are waiting for medical procedures, but these,putting themselves in at risk,spreading the disease will get treatment before us. A great way of respecting a loss of life. 
  • scottishdannyscottishdanny Posts: 4 Member
    Audinut70 said:
    woodbine said:
    Had to laugh earlier the police at clapham common waited till the sun had gone down before they started to arrest those having a vigil, you really could not make it up.
    How does risking more lives with these selfish meetings help anyone? Ill bet none of the crowd have lost anyone to this savage virus! It's not just their lives their playing with. Ive got no time what so ever for people who dont take this virus seriously. Me ,as well as millions of others are waiting for medical procedures, but these,putting themselves in at risk,spreading the disease will get treatment before us. A great way of respecting a loss of life. 
    Think you need to get a grip

    Covid only kills mostly over 80s or people with multiple health issues.  Who should be staying at home and avoiding busy places   

    Far too many leftie socialist   
  • GeoarkGeoark Member, Scope Volunteer Posts: 1,375 Disability Gamechanger
    @scottishdanny

    Regardless who Covid kills it is a fact that many medical procedures have been suspended and certain services have been unavailable. Perhaps rather than trying to insult members here who you disagree with, you should get a grip on what is actually happening?

    Similarly it has not been the over 80s and those with multiple health issues that have been consistently flouting the rules, they are just the ones paying the ultimate price for this behaviour by others.

    If stating the truth means I am a snowflake and leftie socialist I will proudly wear those labels. 

    As an individual I stood alone.
    As a member of a group I did things.
    As part of a community I helped to create change!

  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    My brother was 64, regularly used the gym, a lot fitter than me at 50. I've got a grip on that.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,534 Disability Gamechanger
    Audinut70 said:
    woodbine said:
    Had to laugh earlier the police at clapham common waited till the sun had gone down before they started to arrest those having a vigil, you really could not make it up.
    How does risking more lives with these selfish meetings help anyone? Ill bet none of the crowd have lost anyone to this savage virus! It's not just their lives their playing with. Ive got no time what so ever for people who dont take this virus seriously. Me ,as well as millions of others are waiting for medical procedures, but these,putting themselves in at risk,spreading the disease will get treatment before us. A great way of respecting a loss of life. 
    I think most were taking it very seriously and all that I saw were wearing mask even the duchess of Cambridge went to lay flowers and pay respects, the police totally over reacted and nothing short of the dismissal of Cressida Dicke will do this time.
    In case you might have missed it only 8,000 people are currently in hospital being treats for CV19 down from 50,000 a few short weeks ago.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    You said it yourself, 'most' were wearing masks. My brother only let his neighbour into his house, cost him his life. And yes,I'm angry with him. Only 8000 still in hospital! Chronicle today expecting 3rd wave. Any gathering is unacceptable, forget science, thats just a way of finding a way arund problems, common sense wins that argument. Everyone will have there own argument, until they lose a loved one, i promise you, it sharp changes your attitude to this virus. 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,534 Disability Gamechanger
    If a third wave includes many less deaths, lots fewer cases and hospital admissions down 80% then isn't that anything but a third wave? Of course every lost life is a tradgedy, but let's hope with 24 million having had their first jab we are on our way out of this shocking period in our lives.
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    edited March 14
    So why take unnecessary risks? I'm a man,and I'm disgusted how women have to live with violence/abuse. But putting other lives at risk doesn't do anything for anyone. I couldn't go to my  brother's service, reason why? He lived 200 miles away, why should this be more important? There are numerous ways of showing support for causes like this.
    But now there's another problem, people want to make big crowds, the police say no, just go and do it anyway, the police will get the blame. Do people not think their job is hard enough?
    Scenario, a woman is attacked, but there's no police about, oh,thats because a load if people wanted to have a nice big gathering, and the police had to be there. There is just absolutely NO excuse for gatherings right now. 
  • scottishdannyscottishdanny Posts: 4 Member
    What a bunch of covid sheep. Obv haven't looked beyond the main stream media     ie BBC and sky       do some research.

    Good government sheep do as your told regardless to the facts and harm      

    1000s of people die each year from flu        
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,534 Disability Gamechanger
    One last comment, a policeman (allegedly) murders a young woman, members of the public are outraged and want to show some empathy then the police clamp down, odd is it not?
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • cupcake88cupcake88 Member Posts: 956 Pioneering
    In my early 20 s Before being in a abusive relationship I was never scared of any thing I would walk my dog and all different times some times really late at night or really early in the morning . 

    Since being abused my ex partner  my faith in the police and the Justice system has gone really down hill . 

    It’s very sad what’s happened to this poor lady who was walking home especially by a police man we are supposed to trust the police . It’s all very sad and I hope he’s fully punished to the maximum . 

    I don’t understand tho why this ladies case in particular has caused such a up roar if some one could fill me in that be great it’s terrible what’s happened to her but there have been other ladies who have been out and who have been attacked and murdered is it because this has been done by a police man ? 

    I still live day to day re living bad memories , with my mental illness caused by that trauma I went threw years again and I just never really feel relaxed and safe if the door bell goes or my phone rings I go into a massive panic . 

  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 4,075

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    edited March 14
    @scottishdanny Just a friendly reminder to be considerate of other people's experiences, particular those who have sadly lost loved ones to covid-19.  Although the topics discussed generate different views, we ask all our members to be respectful of others' opinions even if they don't agree with them.  See our online community guidelines for more details. 
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  • scottishdannyscottishdanny Posts: 4 Member
    @scottishdanny Just a friendly reminder to be considerate of other people's experiences, particular those who have sadly lost loved ones to covid-19.  Although the topics discussed generate different views, we ask all our members to be respectful of others' opinions even if they don't agree with them.  See our online community guidelines for more details. 
    Why don't you move to China if freedom of speech and facts ain't allowed because it hurts the same snowflakes that can't handle the truth 
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    woodbine said:
    One last comment, a policeman (allegedly) murders a young woman, members of the public are outraged and want to show some empathy then the police clamp down, odd is it not?
    So taking more police off the streets and putting other people lives at risk is ok?
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    My 14 year old son was robbed and left in a pool of blood, he now suffers ptsd,should he just man up and get on with it? Mental health hasn't got time limits. Can i ask why you're here? i dont recall seeing any introduction.
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 4,075

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    edited March 14
    @Audinut70 I'm sorry to hear about your experience and you have my sympathy.  The comment in question has now been removed and I apologise you had to read it.  We can never delete how our words impact others but where any content breaches the online guidelines please be reassured action will be taken by the team.  
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  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    I was more concerned how it would have made cupcake88 feel. I just didnt understand why he was here if he just wanted to skit people's problems. I've got strong opinions but i try to respect people's feelings. 
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    I am not being disrespectful or rude but the thread is suposed to be about women's safety why does everything turn to corona virus which is off topic there are corona virus threads where those comments can be put  its a shame that a perfectly good  topic and thread has gone off topic 
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    I'm sorry, what was my last post? It was about a woman's mental health after domestic violence, whats that got to do with covid?
  • Audinut70Audinut70 Member Posts: 122 Pioneering
    @scottishdanny Just a friendly reminder to be considerate of other people's experiences, particular those who have sadly lost loved ones to covid-19.  Although the topics discussed generate different views, we ask all our members to be respectful of others' opinions even if they don't agree with them.  See our online community guidelines for more details. 
    Why don't you move to China if freedom of speech and facts ain't allowed because it hurts the same snowflakes that can't handle the truth 
    Why dont you move to a forum where your more suited. This forum is for support, and discussion, not abuse. 
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