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Astrazeneca vaccine

QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
edited March 18 in Disabled people
I had my first astrazeneca vaccine yesterday morning.
It says in the printed info sheets if you get symptoms its 1-2 days after.
I'm ok today but very scared about possibly getting the side effects as my immune system is very supressd.
Has anyone had side effects & if so how bad were they?
I pray i don't get them.

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  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    I had mine 12th feb and didnt have any side effects not even an aching arm 

    I have heard of others who haven't been so lucky though 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    If you’re okay today then you’ve already had no side effects. The literature I’ve read suggests side effects can last 1 to 2 days rather than appear at the 2 day point.
  • Welshjayne2021Welshjayne2021 Member Posts: 85 Courageous
    I had my first jab on the 28th Feb.  Had mild flu-like symptoms for 48 hours, but went back to normal aches and pains thereafter.
  • QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
    Janer1967 thank you so much.
    A friend had terrible side effects & I have no mmune system hence being scared.

  • QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
    mikehughescq
    That isn't true as my printed literature confirms.
    It clearly states that side effects occur 1-2 days after your 1st vaccine & can last up to 1 week.
  • QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
    Welshijane2021
    You've really reassured me im so grateful to you!!
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 766 Pioneering
    I had my first AstraZeneca vaccine about an hour ago so it is too early to tell if I will get any side effects yet!
  • QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
    Yes I had my first Astrazeneca vaccine yesterday morning.
    My nurse gave me printed info 
    It says I quote you can get side effects 1-2 days after your first vaccine.
  • QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
    And it lists them as having a heavy feeling & tenderness in the arm you had your vaccine.
    This tends to be worse 1-2 days after the vaccine.
    Feeling tired.
    Headache & general aches or mild flu like symptoms.

  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Posts: 2,839

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    I had the AstraZeneca jab three weeks ago today. No side effects for me really, apart from a sore arm.
      
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  • vikingqueenvikingqueen Member Posts: 467 Pioneering
           I have no immune system to speak of because of the medication I take, I had my 1st AZ jab 3 weeks ago and didn't have a single side effect not even a sore arm. 
  • QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
    Well Richard I take a deadly cocktail of the strongest drugs available.
    Plus due to the numerous many illnesses I have im so seriously run down.
    Never have any energy am also extremely fatigued 24/7.
    And in serious crippling agony 24/7.
    Plus all my symptoms all make me so ill.
    I honestly am petrified & hope & pray I don't have any symptoms.
  • QueenofdisabilitiesQueenofdisabilities Member Posts: 91 Connected
    Hello Viking Queen Snap.
    You have totally reassured me now
    Thank you
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    @Queenofdisabilities I’d refer you back to the NHS, CDC and gov.uk pages on AZ side effects. None mention any side effects starting on day 2 after the jab. If you can find someone for whom that happened then by all means bring them forth. For reasons I can’t disclose here I’ve had access to relevant data and can say that the stats simply don’t reflect the possibility. 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,522 Disability Gamechanger
    Had my oxford jab last friday had a sore arm for a couple of days and that was that. senior management had hers a month ago and also nothing more serious than a slightly sore arm.
    As for taking medication I taken 19 different tablets and in total 32 a day, all industrial strength as my GP always delights in telling me, but had no reservations about having the jab, which is many thousand times safer than getting the virus.
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  • MarkN88MarkN88 Member Posts: 1,302 Pioneering
    I had mine last month, around 12noon, the following day I had a very sore arm, dizziness, chills, tired, spent the next few days in bed, was alright after 48 hours, sore arm lasted about a week. So took about 12-18 hours for side effects to be noticed. 
  • debbielkldebbielkl Member Posts: 36 Listener
    I had mine a couple of weeks ago, I had a delayed reaction. felt sick and weak for 3 days. I had Pfizer and take biological injections. 
    Hopefully you will be ok
  • niknooniknoo Member Posts: 46 Connected
    I had mine beginning feb, had a sore arm for a few days and first 48hrs I had mild flu like symptoms but fine now. 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    I had an Asrtra Zeneca vaccination last Friday. I did read the leaflet on the way home, but thought I must have missed something, as, checking again today, mine makes no mention of having side-effects 1-2 days later, it just mentions possible side-effects. Well, even if it had, I woke up at 3am, so just over 12 hours after my vaccination, with a sore arm, which lasted for a couple of days; that was the only side-effect I had, tho my friend had a headache for 24 hours.
    Just to reassure you, there is no mention in the medical literature so far available, that someone who is immunosupressed will have a worse reaction to the vaccine, whether it be the Asrtro Zeneca or Pfizer, than another person, tho I can appreciate you were concerned because of this.
    Any vaccination may have some side-effects; they are quite often a sore arm as the injection is given intramuscularly (which is thought to be the safest way, & one causing the least side-effects) so it can hurt, particularly when you raise the injected arm above 90 degrees.
    Hope you're feeling OK, & others responses above may reassure you too. Any reaction normally occurs within a few hours as myself & @MarkN88 experienced, or within a couple of days, as far as I can see too.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,522 Disability Gamechanger
    @chiarieds great to have you back x
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    Everyone is different some react some don't 
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    I have a question if the vacine isn't live why are people getting corona virus symptoms all the symptoms prople are describing  are symptoms of corona virus apart from the sore arm where the injection site is ???????
  • Ami2301Ami2301 Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,753 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm not aware of others developing symptoms related to Coronavirus, only symptoms that are related to the flu.
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 19
    @Ami2301 that is what corona virus feels like head ache body aches feel sick giddy fever I have had it more than once  the only thing missing out the symptoms is the cough after the vacination 

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  • Ami2301Ami2301 Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,753 Disability Gamechanger
    Had she had bad reactions to vaccines before? I had the Oxford one and experienced a mild chill, headache and aches all over. But was ok a couple of days later
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 19
    @Ami2301 she is a nurse no she has had the flu jab and all her injections as a child.
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    I only asked the question because of the symptoms  about it being  not a live vscine 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    Thank you @woodbine - it's good to be back again :)
    It's incorrect to say that people are getting Covid-19 like symptoms after the vaccine @lisathomas50 rather, as mentioned by @Ami2301 these are described in the medical literature as 'flu like symptoms.' The mild - moderate side-effects that can occur can be seen in the Covid-19 Green book Chapter 14a pps.19-20 : https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/961287/Greenbook_chapter_14a_v7_12Feb2021.pdf
    Also anyone who has had the vaccine will receive a leaflet mentioning these possible side effects.
    I agree completely with @woodbine that people should think before giving comments that could potentially put people off getting the vaccine, especially when not backed up by any references.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    Got to agree with @woodbine and @chiariedshere. Anecdotes of side effects are fine. Anecdotes suggesting there are more side effects than have been amply and openly documented steer dangerously close to medical advice - as the only inference to be drawn would be "they're not telling us the whole truth" and ergo "this thing is dangerous" - and would be unacceptable here.

    I get bored with saying this but anecdote is not the plural of evidence etc.
  • OxonladyOxonlady Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    Hi @woodbine, @chiarieds and @Mikehughescq.
    It makes good scientific sense for people to give feedback to the researchers if they experience unusual or prolonged problems after having the vaccine. This is best done using the yellow card scheme, as one would do when experiencing side effects with any other medication. I believe pharmacists can give information on the yellow card scheme.
    In this way, researchers can be given more concrete feedback rather than hearsay or anectodal information, which is useful to the practical applications of their research. 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    Yup, if your symptoms are real use the yellow card scheme not a forum. Absolutely. 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    There's also a dedicated Coronavirus Yellow Card reporting site online:

  • OxonladyOxonlady Member Posts: 412 Pioneering
    Thank you, @chiarieds, I will pass the message on to my Carer, she was quite unwell for three days after having the vaccine but she was back at work today. 
  • SwatteamSwatteam Member Posts: 172 Courageous
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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 8,002

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    I have a question if the vacine isn't live why are people getting corona virus symptoms all the symptoms prople are describing  are symptoms of corona virus apart from the sore arm where the injection site is ???????
    Hello @lisathomas50, I'm not a doctor but from what I've read and my own (admittedly limited) understanding, is that it promotes an immune response. I believe fatigue, chills, aches are all pretty typical immune responses and are usually suggested as side effects of lots of different things and listed as potential side effects of the Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine as listed here.

    I'm sorry to read that your granddaughter may have reacted badly to the vaccine, how is she now? I have made the decision to remove your comments regarding your granddaughter's potential reaction as they may be misleading or cause unintended fear and we've no way to know that her symptoms were as a result of the vaccine. As you've said she's a nurse, I'm sure she's already familiar with the Yellow Card reporting scheme but if not and she (or the health professionals caring for her) feel her symptoms are linked to the vaccine it's important they report it through the proper channels.

     
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 20
    @Adrian_Scope yes I understand the removal of my grandsughters symptoms I do apologise yes it has been reported 

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    In easy terms the vacinstion fools the body into thinking its got the virus and then builds up the anti bodies if I have understood  correctly that explains the symptoms 

    I think there is alot of different information in news papers magazines and online that makes things worse 

    My mum had her 1st one and was fine she had the first one that came out 

    I dont know wether you would know the answer to this question if  you had the vacination the first one with the first vacination roll out the phizer  one can't spell it would you have the same one the second time ? 

    My granddaughter is ok now but not looking forward to the 2nd one 


  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    @Adrian_Scope she had confirmation of a reaction  but most people have had what you described which is normal some are lucky and don't have anything 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    Whichever vaccine you get the first time, you would get the same one for the second vaccination @lisathomas50
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 4,187

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    As mentioned above by Adrian @lisathomas50, , it's important to recognise that those symptoms are common side effects of many vaccinations due to the immune response, and aren't exactly the same as Covid symptoms.

    I think we have to be careful not to directly link receiving the vaccine with developing symptoms we would relate with Coronavirus ones, and instead recognise that any vaccinations can trigger reactions from the body and cause symptoms. It's important for anybody experiencing side effects to report their experience to the appropriate place.

    Yes, each person should receive the same vaccine on both occasions, for example if you receive the Oxford one the first time, you should receive the Oxford one for the second time.
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  • nemgirlnemgirl Member Posts: 1 Listener
    edited April 14
    Note from moderator: this post refers to potential side-effects of COVID-19 vaccines.
    You can find recognised side-effects of the AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines on the respective gov.uk pages

    Hello

    I am from AUSTRALIA
    We only have AZ on offer until they can get more Pfeizer for under 50s.
    Everyone who had the AZ vaccine still feel ok?
    Any of you had clotting side effects? 
    I am terrified of this side effect.
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Posts: 2,839

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    I had the AstraZeneca jab and all I had was a sore arm for a day or so. 
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  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @nemgirl - & welcome to the community. I was pleased to get the AstraZeneca vaccine as I felt very confident about it. Like Richard, all I had was a sore arm for a few days.
    These incidences of blood clots are extremely rare & have not been proven to be linked to this vaccine. As the following article mentions, 'Even if the vaccine was the cause, and this is still not proven, the numbers suggest around one death in every 2.5 million people vaccinated.' So the benefits far outweigh any possible problems. Please see: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56620646
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,522 Disability Gamechanger
    I mentioned almost a month ago that i'm not sure having this discussion on here, or any forum for that matter is helpful, in fact I refuse to get into a discussion about side effects or this vaccine v that vaccine as it serves no purpose.
    All I will say is get the vaccine and also your second jab, it's one of the things that will help us out of this pandemic.
    Thats my second and final comment on this subject.
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  • Caz_AlumniCaz_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 626 Pioneering
    edited April 14
    Hi @nemgirl

    Welcome to the online community :) It's good to have you with us - particularly when you're joining us all the way from Australia!

    Whilst it's completely natural for you to feel some apprehension about having the Covid-19 vaccine, I hope that you can be reassured by the posts from those of us in the online community who have already had the AstraZeneca vaccine? In fact, that includes me! I have now had my first dose and, apart from some minor side effects which were to be expected and which I was advised about beforehand, then I'm really pleased that I did. 

    Obviously, we are all aware of recent coverage about the AstraZeneca vaccine but, as some of our members have already said, it is really important for us to recognise that the benefits of the vaccine do still far outweigh the potential risks. That is the reason why you'll see some of our members referring to this as a discussion that, ultimately, doesn't serve the best interests of the community. That's also why you will see that I have added a note to your original post, directing readers to some further information about the vaccines and any potential side effects. 

    So, whilst it's important for us to be aware of potential side effects and report those when they do occur, we also need to be mindful of the importance of making people feel safe enough to go ahead with their own Covid-19 vaccinations as well.
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    I agree with @woodbine this shouldn't be discussed on any forum 

    As people on here give advice the vacinations are covered by medical issues and we aren't allowed to advise on those so we shouldn't be advising on the vacinations we aren't medical professional  people how do we know what something does or doesn't do when there are different things reported all the time 

    If advise is given and something happens isn't that the same as advising about a medical issue and it's wrong ????

    Just makeing a point 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    chiarieds said:

    These incidences of blood clots are extremely rare & have not been proven to be linked to this vaccine.
    This isn’t true @chiarieds. There is widespread agreement that the vaccine and one specific type of blood clot are clearly related. There is a clear correlation and the pattern across multiple continents has confirmed that. It’s a message that has been poorly communicated and the BBC as ever are way behind. The issue really is how stupid do people want to be about that. The instances are vanishingly small. The danger from C19 is massive in comparison. As a reason to not take the AV vaccine it is plainly ludicrous. 

    @lisathomas50 there is a constant confusion because people confuse the existence of a range different views with an issue not being settled. Those different views get disproportionate oxygen on social media and “in the interests of balance” on mainstream media. There are a huge range of anti vaxxers who will insist on the damage done by MMR and quote a huge range of “evidence”. The realty is that there is not and never was a link between the vaccine and MMR. The evidence is overwhelming. The science is clear and fully in the public domain. The results were faked and Wakefield was struck off. So he goes to America and carries on as though none of the foregoing ever happened and there’s always enough unquestioning fools to enable him to get a hearing and others to say he’s entitled to his “opinion”. He’s not expressing an opinion or detailing facts. He is simply lying. 

    Ditto climate change. The refrain is that the science is not settled. This is always recited by non-scientists and deniers. The scientists themselves agree that the science is 99% settled; that there is no disagreement on any of the basics and the only disagreements are on just how bad it will be. Yet still the BBC and their ilk give the loons a voice in the interests of balance. 

    The answer is not to sit there lamely complaining about how confusing it all is. It really isn’t. Stop reading social media and mainstream media. Go read the science itself. It’s not hard and it’s often irrefutable.
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    Mike I understand  I do read the science but it doesn't do any good putting it on here because it gets me into trouble I still belive its down to a person's choice  today its been said it may not work on the the variants there will always be something new reported and that is from the scientists  so at the end of the day  its a medical issue so we shouldn't be advising 

    If advice is given and it goes wrong as I said in my above comment its a medical issue isn't it wrong to advise  ??
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    I forgot to put my example Mike as you have said and as I have also seen myself that one specific blood clot is related  so if we advise oh yes you will be fine and they got a clot wouldn't we be to blame and scope liable for allowing us to advise 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    I don’t believe advising people to follow science not idiots is medical advice. It’s perfectly possible to follow the science and conclude that a vaccine is not for you. We needed the flu jab for a child with no immunity but decided in 2 specific years that it wouldn’t happen as we couldn’t source any non dairy version those years. We knew the science and the risks and thus made an informed decision.

    It is a choice. However, to suggest that if we urged people to vaccinate and they then got a clot it would be the fault of anyone here is ludicrous. People make choices for complex reasons. 

    I’ve not seen any instances of you positing scientific links on here. I’m also not sure you are reading the science. Stuff you quote like lisathomas50 said:
     today its been said it may not work on the the variants there will always be something new reported and that is from the scientists 
    is the mainstream news. It’s been known from day 1 that vaccines work on the original virus and some variants but the likelihood of working on all variants was low. That’s basic science. The news today is nothing new. 

  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    The point I was trying to make was we aren't allowed to advice on medication or medical issues and a vacination and the corona virus are medical issues 

    I was just just using the clot as an example of advising someone to do something  and it went wrong thats all  sorry 


  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    Whilst there have been suggestions that some vaccines might be linked to cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, & apologies for just looking quickly into this earlier, I think we are in agreement that any putative links are very small indeed.
    There's a huge difference in giving medical advice, or wrongful medical advice @lisathomas50 & trying to assure members that getting a Covid-19 vaccine is in their best interest. I don't believe either Mike or myself are advising, rather trying to debunk what appears on sites such as social media. As mentioned, you don't provide scientific/medical links.
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    edited April 15

    @LisaThomas50 The vaccine rollout is a global public health programme aimed at reducing covid-19 mortalities and prevalence.  The British government has published peer-reviewed information covering the safety of both AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines.  As-well as providing a ‘Yellow card’ reporting website for suspected side effects and guidance about the extremely rare incidence of blood clotting:

    Around 4 people develop this condition for every million doses of AZ vaccine doses given.

    Considering this, we are not giving medical advice but reiterating that from trusted, official sources.  We would encourage anyone who continues to have concerns over any aspect of the covid-19 vaccine to contact their GP to discuss the matter further.

    As a reminder to all, please note the ‘Keep it safe’ section of our online guidelines which states:

    Please be careful about sharing information:
    • Always check that information you get is correct and appropriate.
    • Do not present opinions as facts.
    • Share only trusted resources.
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    As I have already said you can remove my comments I didn't know about the blood clots until I saw it on here and I apologise I used the wrong example I shouldn't of commented at all realy so I apologise you can remove all my comments about the corona virus and it will be something I won't comment on again realy sorry a personal tragedy  made me lose perspective 
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    edited April 16
    @lisathomas50 I'm sorry to hear about your personal tragedy.  I've sent you an email about the above to discuss this more privately, if you could give it a read and get back to me that would be appreciated.
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  • AlexGoAlexGo Member Posts: 4 Listener
    edited May 11
    <Moderator removed - Unsubstantiated claim about covid-19 vaccine>. Eat food not medicine. 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,522 Disability Gamechanger
    @AlexGo hi and welcome to scope, might I suggest that getting varicose veins after a vaccine was mere conincidence?
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  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 4,059

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    Hi @AlexGo and welcome to our community.

    I'm sorry to hear that you've recently developed varicose veins however this isn't a currently recognised side effect of any of the covid-19 vaccines.  For more information on known side effects, please see these respective patient information leaflets:

    For this reason, I've edited your post as to avoid inadvertently misleading others and potentially deterring them from accessing the vaccine.  As per our house rules around 'Keeping it safe':

    Please be careful about sharing information.
    · Always check that information is correct and appropriate.
    · Do not present opinions as facts.
    · Share reputable sources of information.

    Please use this Yellow Card reporting website to report any suspected side effects to vaccines/medication that may concern you.  

    Wishing you all the best :) 

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  • AlexGoAlexGo Member Posts: 4 Listener
    edited May 11
    This is a joke, I said (Removed by moderator, post contains unsubstantiated claims about the Coronavirus vaccine) and moderator deleted my text. Discrimination!!! 
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    @AlexGo

    It isn't discrimination in any sense it is important that information is factual and not just an assumption  with no factual back up to your claim 

    The community do not want members being put off having the vaccine based on assumption and not fact 
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,522 Disability Gamechanger
    AlexGo said:
    This is a joke, I said I have a varicose veins because of AZ and moderator deleted my text. Discrimination!!! 
    In what way do you suspect it was discrimination? Scope has been very careful throughout the pandemic not to allow post that are only opinion based without evidence, especially where it might put people off taking up the vaccine.
    And rightly so.
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  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    Scope is only small in comparison not  defending things that aren't factual but the news and news papers and other social media sites can put people off but as I said before I don't think it should be discussed on any forum just my opinion 
  • AlexGoAlexGo Member Posts: 4 Listener
    edited May 11
    Well, I was thinking this is a forum where I can found more information about AZ but looks (Removed by moderator) where you only can say what moderator wants.  Maybe it's rare about (Removed by moderator, post contains unverified claims about Coronavirus vaccine) but some how GP say to me they are VERY BUSY at the moment and MINIMUM 3 months need wait go to hospital to see a doctor,  my 2 week past and still no one call me phlebotomy to get appointment.  So I'm here to see how many people have this problem and to read good advice.  Good luck
  • AlexGoAlexGo Member Posts: 4 Listener
    And yes I reported long time ago to Yellow card. Don't think it will be some changes. 
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    Hello @AlexGo

    Firstly, welcome to the community, I'm glad you've joined us. And I'm sorry to hear that you are having difficulty with varicose veins.

    I think in this current climate we have to be careful not to claim links between the various Coronavirus vaccines and symptoms we might develop around the time of taking the vaccine.
    Your initial post was edited because we have to be careful not to mislead anybody about the side-effects of taking a vaccine, and therefore I have edited further remarks that you've made about the vaccination in line with our community guidelines.

    You are absolutely welcome to discuss your experience of taking the vaccine, and receive peer support from others, but I'd just like to remind everyone of the information that Cher shared earlier around the trusted sources for information relating to the vaccines:


    You did the right thing in reporting your experience to Yellow card, I would encourage anybody to do the same if they experience difficulties following their vaccination. Of course, you can always ask for your GP's advice too, it's a shame in this situation that your GP seems to have a lengthy waiting list.

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  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    Must admit I'm unsure why this thread has re-opened. Thought the Scope team, & I felt the majority of members thought the same, that as far as scientific evidence has indicated, the various Covid vaccines are both safe & effective. A free for all where a member can 'anecdotally' say what they want, to the detriment of the majority of our community, seems a retrograde step IMHO. Doubt I'll report posts again.
  • woodbinewoodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 4,522 Disability Gamechanger
    edited May 11
    chiarieds said:
    Must admit I'm unsure why this thread has re-opened. Thought the Scope team, & I felt the majority of members thought the same, that as far as scientific evidence has indicated, the various Covid vaccines are both safe & effective. A free for all where a member can 'anecdotally' say what they want, to the detriment of the majority of our community, seems a retrograde step IMHO. Doubt I'll report posts again.
    @chiarieds Totally agree
    "Putting a child into care, isn't caring for a child" (T.Rhattigan)
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    I do wonder how racism or homophobia would be treated. On current form Scope would simply add a qualifying statement and even then it would be so pasty faced it would say the post in question “may” contain inaccuracies. 

    I was talking to a colleague who used to be on this forum when it first started. I only recently learned this. They were genuinely shocked I was here. Word was fairly widespread nationally that this was a place where disabled people could pretty much get a free pass on saying anything and the administrators basically felt that their “right”to an opinion trumped anything. 

    I absolutely love that one poster was allowed to start a thread aimed basically at abusing me and when I report it it’s not closed because there were concerns about them. Not concerns about me. Concerns about them. I ask for an explanation as to why it was not only still open but an admin had spotted it and posted on it. Didn’t think to shut it down because of the abuse. Nope. Far more important to let people have their say. 

    One day the penny will finally drop with the Scope team. If you give people a free pass to people when they post stuff which clearly has no basis in reality of us abusive then you got web site administration 100% backwards.
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,207 Disability Gamechanger
    It's bad enough, Mike, & I know both you & Poppy have suffered the most abuse, & then who wonders why some members have left? Inconsistencies can be dealt with with an open mind, downright abuse, or, as is important now, inaccuracies about the Covid vaccines, are another matter, & should be dealt with without tip-toeing around the original poster's 'concerns.'
    I can only say about this thread, I flagged it, with no initial response; the second time I flagged it, as we're asked to do, the thread was closed down, then re-opened!! I'm a bit lost off. What is the point of flagging genuine concerns if they're not properly addressed?
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    edited May 12
    Trusted sources have also changed along the way  any medication has side affects that are listed on papper work that come with the medication  because that's what they know could happen new side affects come along every day doesn't mean the person is wrong  it just means it hasn't been looked into  yet to see if this could be a possible side affect 

    [Removed by moderator - unsubstantiated claim]

    This is a new vacination other side affects will show up along the way 
  • lisathomas50lisathomas50 Posts: 4,363 Disability Gamechanger
    In the side affects and in the writing  no where does it say that the vacination is 100 per cent safe and on one part of the trusted writen word it also says the vacination may not work for everyone so on reading the trusted information  people are also wrong by saying its effective and safe where yes in most cases it is and it says about the vacination being less of a risk 

    People are saying about other people scarring them into not haveing the vacination on this forum but on TV and on social media and other forums have said when reading the trusted information that has scared them  

    So in my opinion it depends how a person thinks  not what is said personally the trusted information scares me more 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,637 Disability Gamechanger
    Lisa you keep quoting things that are “trusted” but you need to post links. The sources you’ve cited as trusted in the past have been right wing quackery from dodgy US sites rather than actual science so it looks like the problem is not the vaccine but the people who always manage to find something to fuel an irrational fear.
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 8,002

    Scope community team

    edited May 12
    @lisathomas50, I've edited part of your post where you've claimed your condition is listed in paperwork to not receive the vaccine as this is unsubstantiated. Those with Lupus are in one of the priority groups for the vaccine as seen on the Government website and in this press release from the Department of Health and Social Care. If you have evidence to the contrary, please feel free to email it to me and I'll restore your post.
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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 8,002

    Scope community team

    edited May 12
    This thread will remain closed due to ongoing and repeated breaches of the community guidelines. 
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