Astrazeneca vaccine

chiarieds

Whilst there have been suggestions that some vaccines might be linked to cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, & apologies for just looking quickly into this earlier, I think we are in agreement that any putative links are very small indeed.

There's a huge difference in giving medical advice, or wrongful medical advice @lisathomas50 & trying to assure members that getting a Covid-19 vaccine is in their best interest. I don't believe either Mike or myself are advising, rather trying to debunk what appears on sites such as social media. As mentioned, you don't provide scientific/medical links.

Adrian_Scope

Thread closed, pending review.

Cher_Alumni

@LisaThomas50 The vaccine rollout is a global public health programme aimed at reducing covid-19 mortalities and prevalence.  The British government has published peer-reviewed information covering the safety of both AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines.  As-well as providing a ‘Yellow card’ reporting website for suspected side effects and guidance about the extremely rare incidence of blood clotting:

Around 4 people develop this condition for every million doses of AZ vaccine doses given.

Considering this, we are not giving medical advice but reiterating that from trusted, official sources.  We would encourage anyone who continues to have concerns over any aspect of the covid-19 vaccine to contact their GP to discuss the matter further.

As a reminder to all, please note the ‘Keep it safe’ section of our online guidelines which states:

Please be careful about sharing information:

• Always check that information you get is correct and appropriate.

• Do not present opinions as facts.

• Share only trusted resources.

Lisatho11987777

As I have already said you can remove my comments I didn't know about the blood clots until I saw it on here and I apologise I used the wrong example I shouldn't of commented at all realy so I apologise you can remove all my comments about the corona virus and it will be something I won't comment on again realy sorry a personal tragedy  made me lose perspective 

Cher_Alumni

@lisathomas50 I'm sorry to hear about your personal tragedy.  I've sent you an email about the above to discuss this more privately, if you could give it a read and get back to me that would be appreciated.

AlexGo

<Moderator removed - Unsubstantiated claim about covid-19 vaccine>. Eat food not medicine. 

Cher_Alumni

Hi @AlexGo and welcome to our community.

I'm sorry to hear that you've recently developed varicose veins however this isn't a currently recognised side effect of any of the covid-19 vaccines.  For more information on known side effects, please see these respective patient information leaflets:

• Patient information leaflet for Covid-19 Vaccine Moderna
• Information for UK recipients on Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 Vaccine
• Information for UK recipients on Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca

For this reason, I've edited your post as to avoid inadvertently misleading others and potentially deterring them from accessing the vaccine.  As per our house rules around 'Keeping it safe':

Please be careful about sharing information.
· Always check that information is correct and appropriate.
· Do not present opinions as facts.
· Share reputable sources of information.

Please use this Yellow Card reporting website to report any suspected side effects to vaccines/medication that may concern you.  

Wishing you all the best  

AlexGo

This is a joke, I said (Removed by moderator, post contains unsubstantiated claims about the Coronavirus vaccine) and moderator deleted my text. Discrimination!!! 

janer1967

@AlexGo

It isn't discrimination in any sense it is important that information is factual and not just an assumption  with no factual back up to your claim 

The community do not want members being put off having the vaccine based on assumption and not fact 

Lisatho11987777

Scope is only small in comparison not  defending things that aren't factual but the news and news papers and other social media sites can put people off but as I said before I don't think it should be discussed on any forum just my opinion 

AlexGo

Well, I was thinking this is a forum where I can found more information about AZ but looks (Removed by moderator) where you only can say what moderator wants.  Maybe it's rare about (Removed by moderator, post contains unverified claims about Coronavirus vaccine) but some how GP say to me they are VERY BUSY at the moment and MINIMUM 3 months need wait go to hospital to see a doctor,  my 2 week past and still no one call me phlebotomy to get appointment.  So I'm here to see how many people have this problem and to read good advice.  Good luck

AlexGo

And yes I reported long time ago to Yellow card. Don't think it will be some changes. 

Ross_Alumni

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Ross_Alumni

Hello @AlexGo

Firstly, welcome to the community, I'm glad you've joined us. And I'm sorry to hear that you are having difficulty with varicose veins.

I think in this current climate we have to be careful not to claim links between the various Coronavirus vaccines and symptoms we might develop around the time of taking the vaccine.
Your initial post was edited because we have to be careful not to mislead anybody about the side-effects of taking a vaccine, and therefore I have edited further remarks that you've made about the vaccination in line with our community guidelines.

You are absolutely welcome to discuss your experience of taking the vaccine, and receive peer support from others, but I'd just like to remind everyone of the information that Cher shared earlier around the trusted sources for information relating to the vaccines:

• Patient information leaflet for Covid-19 Vaccine Moderna
• Information for UK recipients on Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 Vaccine
• Information for UK recipients on Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca

You did the right thing in reporting your experience to Yellow card, I would encourage anybody to do the same if they experience difficulties following their vaccination. Of course, you can always ask for your GP's advice too, it's a shame in this situation that your GP seems to have a lengthy waiting list.

chiarieds

Must admit I'm unsure why this thread has re-opened. Thought the Scope team, & I felt the majority of members thought the same, that as far as scientific evidence has indicated, the various Covid vaccines are both safe & effective. A free for all where a member can 'anecdotally' say what they want, to the detriment of the majority of our community, seems a retrograde step IMHO. Doubt I'll report posts again.

chiarieds

It's bad enough, Mike, & I know both you & Poppy have suffered the most abuse, & then who wonders why some members have left? Inconsistencies can be dealt with with an open mind, downright abuse, or, as is important now, inaccuracies about the Covid vaccines, are another matter, & should be dealt with without tip-toeing around the original poster's 'concerns.'

I can only say about this thread, I flagged it, with no initial response; the second time I flagged it, as we're asked to do, the thread was closed down, then re-opened!! I'm a bit lost off. What is the point of flagging genuine concerns if they're not properly addressed?

Lisatho11987777

Trusted sources have also changed along the way  any medication has side affects that are listed on papper work that come with the medication  because that's what they know could happen new side affects come along every day doesn't mean the person is wrong  it just means it hasn't been looked into  yet to see if this could be a possible side affect 

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This is a new vacination other side affects will show up along the way 

Lisatho11987777

In the side affects and in the writing  no where does it say that the vacination is 100 per cent safe and on one part of the trusted writen word it also says the vacination may not work for everyone so on reading the trusted information  people are also wrong by saying its effective and safe where yes in most cases it is and it says about the vacination being less of a risk 

People are saying about other people scarring them into not haveing the vacination on this forum but on TV and on social media and other forums have said when reading the trusted information that has scared them  

So in my opinion it depends how a person thinks  not what is said personally the trusted information scares me more 

Adrian_Scope

@lisathomas50, I've edited part of your post where you've claimed your condition is listed in paperwork to not receive the vaccine as this is unsubstantiated. Those with Lupus are in one of the priority groups for the vaccine as seen on the Government website and in this press release from the Department of Health and Social Care. If you have evidence to the contrary, please feel free to email it to me and I'll restore your post.

Adrian_Scope

This thread will remain closed due to ongoing and repeated breaches of the community guidelines.