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Hi, I'm new here and very unsure about my PIP appeal

ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
edited March 21 in Disabled people
Hi, I'm new here and very unsure. Late diagnosed and still working out what it all means. 

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  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi and welcome to the community glad you have joined 

    Feel free to look around and join in or ask any questions 
  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Thanks for the welcome. Looking for similar souls. I've found it difficult to find them in the real world. 
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Posts: 4,151

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  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Pip appeal going to tribunal so I'm working all hours on gathering evidence. That feeling that I'll miss something crucial...
  • Ami2301Ami2301 Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,747 Disability Gamechanger
    Welcome to the community @Artiauti there are plenty of members here on the community who will be happy to advise you about your PIP appeal :)
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  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Ah, thank you! I'm struggling to explain my struggles using the pip criteria as my diagnosis of Aspergers with anxiety and depression (with all the issues that come with those) don't seem to be enough.
  • janer1967janer1967 Member Posts: 11,201 Disability Gamechanger
    You dint need lots of evidence unless it gives an account of your daily life and how your condition affects you 

    You best evidence will be yourself and your account at the tribunal 
  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Oh right. That's good to know! I'm just submitting the online form for the appeal. I'm hoping I get more humane people than the Capita assessors.
  • Cody0709Cody0709 Member Posts: 8 Connected
    Yes, try and ignore the attitude of the Capita Assessors, many have said similar!  My son was successful at the MR stage, so he didn't go to tribunal, but like you he is Aspergers and suffers from anxiety and depression.  I believe that one person will have a medical background on the tribunal, but that doesn't mean they will have detailed knowledge of ASD.  My recommendation is to have some examples for each of the tasks showing the difficulties you have completing them or why you need support to do them.  e   
  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Thank you. That's really useful. I don't tend to dwell on negatives but I've been told to write about my worst days. It's hard as you can set off unhelpful feelings when you're just trying to justify why you need help. 
  • chiariedschiarieds Community Co-Production Group Posts: 9,170 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Artiauti - & welcome to the community. Whoever advised you to write about your worst days is unfortunately incorrect. With PIP you should write completely honestly, & it's about how you are on the majority of days.
    When gathering evidence for your PIP tribunal, as far as any medical evidence goes, often less is more. Make sure that any you are considering sending in don't contradict each other, & would any insight be gained if they don't mention any functional problems you have with either of the 2 components, daily living & mobility?
    A tribunal is totally separate from the DWP, & just wanting to find out exactly how your difficulties affect you. There will be a judge, a Dr, & someone with some understanding about disabilities.
    Your diagnosis/diagnoses at this stage don't matter, nor the Health Care Professional's report, rather a couple of detailed examples (as at the time of your assessment) as to why you had difficulty, what exactly happened the last couple of times you did/attempted to do the activity/descriptor, who witnessed it, how did it make you feel afterwards (if that applies); could you do it safely, did you need prompting, etc?
    I'm hoping the following link might help you, & if someone who knows you well might have a look too, either a family member or friend, perhaps their insight might help: https://www.mentalhealthandmoneyadvice.org/en/welfare-benefits/pip-mental-health-guide/help-with-your-pip-claim/how-to-fill-in-the-pip-form/
    If you're unsure. then do try to get some representation before your tribunal.....try using this search: https://advicelocal.uk/


  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,620 Disability Gamechanger
    Artiauti said:
    Thank you. That's really useful. I don't tend to dwell on negatives but I've been told to write about my worst days. It's hard as you can set off unhelpful feelings when you're just trying to justify why you need help. 
    Absolutely the worst advice as @chiarieds has said. Has been perpetuated for years from claimant to claimant and is awful dangerous advice. Writing only about your worst days implies that all your days are like that and comes dangerously close to fraud. There have been two cases prosecuted on that basis and one was successful. PIP is about whether you can perform a points scoring activity reliably. Reliably is a term defined in the regs and includes whether you can do something repeatedly. If you can’t then it’s okay to say that. In other words showing and describing variations is gets you PIP.
  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Thank you both. Such useful advice. I'm feeling much more comfortable now. It's a daunting and exposing process and I've been sleeping even more badly than usual since I realised I have to go through this. 
  • Caz_AlumniCaz_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 626 Pioneering
    Hi @Artiauti :)

    Just wanted to drop by and say hello.

    Sounds like you're feeling a bit more reassured about the tribunal process now that you've spoken to some of our community members?

    There's no denying that it's a daunting process and it's natural to feel like you are doing. But as much as possible, you try and look after yourself as well. Plus, if you have any more questions or just feel like a chat, keep talking to everyone on here. That might help to put your mind at rest a bit more - and hopefully, you will be able to get some proper sleep and rest as well!

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  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    I am feeling much better. Thank you. 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,620 Disability Gamechanger
  • ArtiautiArtiauti Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Thank you. I've just read your link and it's really helpful. 
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