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Do you think the country will be back to normal by the summer

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Caz_Alumni

Good question @Tree1!

I think there's still so much hanging the balance that I wouldn't like to place bets on the country being back to 'normal' by the summer, or indeed anytime soon.

And, of course, it all depends on what we each define as 'normal'?

Tree1

I totally agree with you on the poll

Welshjayne2021

I think it will be a couple of years before we see any sort of normality. I feel people will be apprehensive about getting back to what they were used to do before Covid 19. There is still too much uncertainty. We will have to play it by ear for some time yet.

leeCal

I agree, I don’t think we’ll be back to normal by next summer either. The virus is global after all.

Lisatho11987777

I think it will be five years or more before we see fewer cases and when the virus runs its course and gets to weak to do anymore serious harm

deb74

I am not holding my breath about things getting back to normal any time soon. Some experts have said it will never go away completely and just like flu and we will ail have to have boosters every year.

MarkM88

Personally I wouldn’t imagine everyone getting a booster every year. It would take too long and many resources. I think it would be more like the flu jab and offered to only specific groups.

Edited - I should be more specific and say, the flu jab is offered free to specific groups!

MarkM88

I think you knew what I meant though.

MarkM88

Plans change as well you know.

I expressed my opinion on what will happen.

Cher_Alumni

Plans do change you're right @MarkN88 I did a little reading about this and the British Medical Journal published this quote from Anthony Harnden, Deputy Chair of the Vaccine Advisory Committee just recently:

“I suspect it’s going to be likely that we’re going to require an annual boost for a while,” he said. “It just depends on the length of duration of protection. The virus mutates, [but it] probably doesn’t mutate as much or as quickly as the influenza virus, so it’s very difficult to predict whether this is going to be an annual vaccine or for how many years.
“But I certainly think it’s going to be a booster shot this year.”

So I imagine it's a case of monitoring the efficacy of vaccines and the covid stats as we proceed into future years.

Back to the OP's question, I can barely remember what normal was like now unfortunately. And I agree with @Caz_Scope, how do we define it?! I think we'll be in a period of flux for a good year or so yet but hopefully, the worst is over now.

Lisatho11987777

All I can say is that we will just have to see personally I think k we will be back in lockdown by June sorry just my opinion x

Lisatho11987777

Scientists think we will be in the third wave by May Mike they are still testing to see if the vacination will cover all variants no one has ever been immune to the flu no one has built up an immunity against the common cold all these are types of corona virus

Only time will tell but I think before the hight of the summer we will be back in lockdown to much is being done to soon in my opinion

Only way to keep safe is mask distance wash hands I value your opinion though Mike I personally belive that the corona virus will run its 4 year course and weaken its self to the point where a yearly vacine like the flu will be done a pandemic usually runs its course in roughly 4 years

I dont think enough is known about the corona virus yet to know fully how it runs I belive it will be something we will be liveing with for years to come and I belive wearing masks and distancing and hand washing / sanatiser will also be the new norm but as I say only time will tell

Lisatho11987777

Sorry Mike what I meant about running its course is where it's at it's strongest which it could be at it's strongest for 4 years

I dont belive in herd immunity if that was the case they wouldnt need an annual vacination for the flu and people still get the flu even if they are vaccinated there will always be epidemics or pandemics looking at statistics aids has caused more deaths than covid 19

As you say Mike aids is still here there are lots of other illness that has caused more deaths than corona virus I would expect aids to be higher as that is a bodily contact disease want for a better word

As you say Mike a mask is to prevent you passing it to someone else corona virus attacks the vital organs and cells and breaks down the immune system I have had an antibody test done and I havent built up any antibodies against the corona virus even though I have had it more than once I have lupus I havent had a flu vacination because my dr said there would be no point as my body would reject it and cause my body to fight against its self

The point someone made on the corona virus group wales was what long term affects does the vaccination have on the body I don't know if that is or will become an issue only time will tell I suppose

fluffycat

Once pubs open many people will lose their heads and gord knows what will happen!

With a hint of lockdown last Spring, nighttime places were heaving, so it had to be lockdown (to be strict) though it spilled out to parks with huge gatherings. (Takeaway alcohol was creating huge gatherings as well)

Lately people are partying on the street and huge swathes of empty cans n bottles dotted about.

deb74

Unfortunately I think @lisathomas50 is right. Not sure how soon we will be back in lockdown but I don't think it will be long. Relaxing the rules too soon again will cause more deaths as it has done each time we have come out of lockdown. @fluffycat is right about the gatherings. This has been happening a lot in Cardiff. There is always going to ignorant (Removed by moderator, word may cause offence) who don't care about other people and what damage they cause. As for the rubbish it is awful. The one thing I have noticed lately though is all the masks that have been dumped everywhere.

Lisatho11987777

I saw today Mike that the scientists are worried about a couple of the variants cant remember the three numbers that were involved I think personally there is a long way to go yet

Today in wales there has been no new deaths and only 50 new cases I am holding my judgement and see where we are in 4 weeks time now things are opening up again

Lisatho11987777

If I am remembering it correctly Mike havent we been below one in the R rate and went back up

Lisatho11987777

Where I live was on local lockdown not long after we came out the first lockdown then we had the Welsh firebreak then not long after thst another lockdown I would hope they had learn't from all that but we will see within the next four weeks where we are

fluffycat

The scenes in London Soho were manic. (Other places too on the news)
Hopefully the vaccine takes up slack though probably unvaccinated youngsters out on the razzle.

Lisatho11987777

@fluffycat only time will tell