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My kind is blamed over bad things other autistic people do.

BrettyBoy
BrettyBoy Community member Posts: 7 Connected
edited May 2021 in Autism and neurodiversity
Like the topic title says, my kind is blamed over bad things other autistic people do, despite the fact non-autistic people do worse.

When an autistic person kills someone, you get normies that say ‘Autism is a sociopath trait’ and ‘Autistic people lack empathy’ even though you see non-autistic people on the news that have killed babies and stuff which is something people need to point out in response to statements where normies are implying only autistic people are like that.  
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  • euro
    euro Community member Posts: 73 Courageous
    I think I get where you're coming from.  You sound quite upset and I can relate to the feeling of injustice I sense you are expressing

    But, I cannot empathise because I feel attacked by your statement.  I am trying my hardest to see past the hypocrisy in your post.  You appear to be arguing against discrimination and stereotyping with exactly those things - it's like swearing at a child to mind their language.

    To paraphrase your opening sentences slightly, you claim that  *'your-kind' do good, 'other autistics' do bad and 'non-autistic people do worse*.  I am sorry if I have misunderstood your post but if not, please think about what you're putting out there.  My kind, by the way, is human kind.  I also happen to be mixed race, female and Aspie, but never 'of impure race', 'unmale', or 'non-normie'.
  • Cher_Alumni
    Cher_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,741 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @BrettyBoy

    I understand your frustration around the societal myths commonly associated with autistic people, and some of those you mention are discussed and dispelled in this BBC article.  Clearly, people from both disabled and non-disabled demographics commit crimes and to pathologise one group as worse than the other would be harmful and misleading.

    @euro Thank you for your thoughtful response.  Language, and the meanings we attach to phrases, are powerful and it's good to critically reflect on how we use different words in different contexts.  

    As discussion evolves, just a gentle reminder to keep things friendly in line with our community house rules.  This is an emotive subject so please bear in mind to:

    make sure your messages respect others’ views and suggestions, even if you do not agree with them. 
    It's great to meet you both and I hope you have lovely Tuesdays whatever you are doing :)
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  • BrettyBoy
    BrettyBoy Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    euro said:
    I think I get where you're coming from.  You sound quite upset and I can relate to the feeling of injustice I sense you are expressing

    But, I cannot empathise because I feel attacked by your statement.  I am trying my hardest to see past the hypocrisy in your post.  You appear to be arguing against discrimination and stereotyping with exactly those things - it's like swearing at a child to mind their language.

    To paraphrase your opening sentences slightly, you claim that  *'your-kind' do good, 'other autistics' do bad and 'non-autistic people do worse*.  I am sorry if I have misunderstood your post but if not, please think about what you're putting out there.  My kind, by the way, is human kind.  I also happen to be mixed race, female and Aspie, but never 'of impure race', 'unmale', or 'non-normie'.
    Well, what I mean is when a normie sees that one autistic person does something bad, you get normies that act like all autistic people are like that. 
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  • BrettyBoy
    BrettyBoy Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    euro said:
    I think I get where you're coming from.  You sound quite upset and I can relate to the feeling of injustice I sense you are expressing

    But, I cannot empathise because I feel attacked by your statement.  I am trying my hardest to see past the hypocrisy in your post.  You appear to be arguing against discrimination and stereotyping with exactly those things - it's like swearing at a child to mind their language.

    To paraphrase your opening sentences slightly, you claim that  *'your-kind' do good, 'other autistics' do bad and 'non-autistic people do worse*.  I am sorry if I have misunderstood your post but if not, please think about what you're putting out there.  My kind, by the way, is human kind.  I also happen to be mixed race, female and Aspie, but never 'of impure race', 'unmale', or 'non-normie'.
    Oh wait, I know what you mean now, you didn’t like the fact I said ‘My kind’ but I’m not saying this in a dehumanising way but in a ‘People in my position’ type way. 
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  • BrettyBoy
    BrettyBoy Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    edited May 2021
    Like the topic title says, you get normal <moderator removed offensive language> that say autistic people lack empathy but there is massive hypocrisy behind a statement like that.

    Now, this is going to be a type of thread that gets straight to the point but do them normal <moderator removed offensive language> have empathy themselves when they say this stuff since they don’t bother to think how stuff like this feels to read as an autistic person?
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  • Cher_Alumni
    Cher_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,741 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @BrettyBoy

    I've merged this thread with your existing one, as discussion covers similar themes.  Also, I've edited out use of an offensive term due to it's homophobic connotations.  Please be mindful of the language you use and how others could perceive it when constructing posts.  

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  • BrettyBoy
    BrettyBoy Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    Hi @BrettyBoy

    I've merged this thread with your existing one, as discussion covers similar themes.  Also, I've edited out use of an offensive term due to it's homophobic connotations.  Please be mindful of the language you use and how others could perceive it when constructing posts.  

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    Looks like I’m too socially unacceptable even for here. 
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  • Cher_Alumni
    Cher_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,741 Disability Gamechanger
    @BrettyBoy Ah, I'm sorry you got that impression.  You most definitely are accepted and welcome here, but we have a duty to keep this an inclusive space for everyone - as such, where words may be offensive to others they aren't permitted.  I hope you understand  :)
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  • BrettyBoy
    BrettyBoy Community member Posts: 7 Connected
    @BrettyBoy Ah, I'm sorry you got that impression.  You most definitely are accepted and welcome here, but we have a duty to keep this an inclusive space for everyone - as such, where words may be offensive to others they aren't permitted.  I hope you understand  :)
    What I mean by socially unacceptable is that I say stuff a lot of people don’t like, I don’t think it’s a bad thing though because it’s freedom of speech.
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  • spankie76
    spankie76 Community member Posts: 30 Connected
    @Cher_Scope thank you for sharing the BBC article. As a 44 year old who has recently been told I have AS, I myself have misconceptions which have come from what adults believed in the 80s. I am now working through them and starting to accept that I'm not a wrong one I just think differently?
  • spankie76
    spankie76 Community member Posts: 30 Connected
    @BrettyBoy it's not that you're socially unaccepted, ive suffered the same my whole life feeling like I never fit anywhere and being excluded from things just because others don't get it. I personally think as much as neurotypical people need to understand neurodiverse people alot more, we also have to understand ourselves and try and help others understand there's more than one way of thinking. 



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