My kind is blamed over bad things other autistic people do.

BrettyBoy · May 2021

Like the topic title says, my kind is blamed over bad things other autistic people do, despite the fact non-autistic people do worse.

When an autistic person kills someone, you get normies that say ‘Autism is a sociopath trait’ and ‘Autistic people lack empathy’ even though you see non-autistic people on the news that have killed babies and stuff which is something people need to point out in response to statements where normies are implying only autistic people are like that.

euro · May 2021

I think I get where you're coming from. You sound quite upset and I can relate to the feeling of injustice I sense you are expressing

But, I cannot empathise because I feel attacked by your statement. I am trying my hardest to see past the hypocrisy in your post. You appear to be arguing against discrimination and stereotyping with exactly those things - it's like swearing at a child to mind their language.

To paraphrase your opening sentences slightly, you claim that *'your-kind' do good, 'other autistics' do bad and 'non-autistic people do worse*. I am sorry if I have misunderstood your post but if not, please think about what you're putting out there. My kind, by the way, is human kind. I also happen to be mixed race, female and Aspie, but never 'of impure race', 'unmale', or 'non-normie'.

Cher_Alumni · May 2021

Hi @BrettyBoy

I understand your frustration around the societal myths commonly associated with autistic people, and some of those you mention are discussed and dispelled in this BBC article. Clearly, people from both disabled and non-disabled demographics commit crimes and to pathologise one group as worse than the other would be harmful and misleading.

@euro Thank you for your thoughtful response. Language, and the meanings we attach to phrases, are powerful and it's good to critically reflect on how we use different words in different contexts.

As discussion evolves, just a gentle reminder to keep things friendly in line with our community house rules. This is an emotive subject so please bear in mind to:

make sure your messages respect others’ views and suggestions, even if you do not agree with them.

It's great to meet you both and I hope you have lovely Tuesdays whatever you are doing

BrettyBoy · May 2021

euro said:

I think I get where you're coming from. You sound quite upset and I can relate to the feeling of injustice I sense you are expressing

But, I cannot empathise because I feel attacked by your statement. I am trying my hardest to see past the hypocrisy in your post. You appear to be arguing against discrimination and stereotyping with exactly those things - it's like swearing at a child to mind their language.

To paraphrase your opening sentences slightly, you claim that *'your-kind' do good, 'other autistics' do bad and 'non-autistic people do worse*. I am sorry if I have misunderstood your post but if not, please think about what you're putting out there. My kind, by the way, is human kind. I also happen to be mixed race, female and Aspie, but never 'of impure race', 'unmale', or 'non-normie'.

Well, what I mean is when a normie sees that one autistic person does something bad, you get normies that act like all autistic people are like that.

BrettyBoy · May 2021

euro said:

I think I get where you're coming from. You sound quite upset and I can relate to the feeling of injustice I sense you are expressing

But, I cannot empathise because I feel attacked by your statement. I am trying my hardest to see past the hypocrisy in your post. You appear to be arguing against discrimination and stereotyping with exactly those things - it's like swearing at a child to mind their language.

To paraphrase your opening sentences slightly, you claim that *'your-kind' do good, 'other autistics' do bad and 'non-autistic people do worse*. I am sorry if I have misunderstood your post but if not, please think about what you're putting out there. My kind, by the way, is human kind. I also happen to be mixed race, female and Aspie, but never 'of impure race', 'unmale', or 'non-normie'.

Oh wait, I know what you mean now, you didn’t like the fact I said ‘My kind’ but I’m not saying this in a dehumanising way but in a ‘People in my position’ type way.

BrettyBoy · May 2021

Like the topic title says, you get normal <moderator removed offensive language> that say autistic people lack empathy but there is massive hypocrisy behind a statement like that.

Now, this is going to be a type of thread that gets straight to the point but do them normal <moderator removed offensive language> have empathy themselves when they say this stuff since they don’t bother to think how stuff like this feels to read as an autistic person?

Cher_Alumni · May 2021

Hi @BrettyBoy

I've merged this thread with your existing one, as discussion covers similar themes. Also, I've edited out use of an offensive term due to it's homophobic connotations. Please be mindful of the language you use and how others could perceive it when constructing posts.

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BrettyBoy · May 2021

Cher_Scope said:

Hi @BrettyBoy

I've merged this thread with your existing one, as discussion covers similar themes. Also, I've edited out use of an offensive term due to it's homophobic connotations. Please be mindful of the language you use and how others could perceive it when constructing posts.

As per o ur house rules, the following content is not allowed on the community:
impersonating someone
against the law
harassing, inaccurate, defamatory, abusive, disrespectful, offensive, pornographic, racist, sexist, threatening, vulgar, obscene, hateful or otherwise inappropriate
insensitive
misleading
dangerous to others
advertising
crowdfunding or asking for money
infringing copyright
personal information not suitable for public viewing like address, email or phone number
not relevant to the community
medical advice

Looks like I’m too socially unacceptable even for here.

Cher_Alumni · May 2021

@BrettyBoy Ah, I'm sorry you got that impression. You most definitely are accepted and welcome here, but we have a duty to keep this an inclusive space for everyone - as such, where words may be offensive to others they aren't permitted. I hope you understand

BrettyBoy · May 2021

Cher_Scope said:

@BrettyBoy Ah, I'm sorry you got that impression. You most definitely are accepted and welcome here, but we have a duty to keep this an inclusive space for everyone - as such, where words may be offensive to others they aren't permitted. I hope you understand

What I mean by socially unacceptable is that I say stuff a lot of people don’t like, I don’t think it’s a bad thing though because it’s freedom of speech.

spankie76 · May 2021

@Cher_Scope thank you for sharing the BBC article. As a 44 year old who has recently been told I have AS, I myself have misconceptions which have come from what adults believed in the 80s. I am now working through them and starting to accept that I'm not a wrong one I just think differently?

spankie76 · May 2021

@BrettyBoy it's not that you're socially unaccepted, ive suffered the same my whole life feeling like I never fit anywhere and being excluded from things just because others don't get it. I personally think as much as neurotypical people need to understand neurodiverse people alot more, we also have to understand ourselves and try and help others understand there's more than one way of thinking.

My kind is blamed over bad things other autistic people do.

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