pip1043- is the rule that, unless you're in hospital for 28 days, they don't need to know?

travelhear

this form asked me the exact dates people were in hospital and what for,
is the rule unless you are in hospital for 28days they do not need to know  or has this changes, what legistatiive change was there?

calcotti

You should inform them about hospital stays but stays of 28 days or less will not affect payment. Stays in hospital seated by less than 27 days are added together. Days of admission and discharge do not count as days in hospital.

travelhear

so if i go into hospitial for an same day appointment i am meant to tell them? how does that work with he right to privacy and family life.

calcotti

travelhear said:

so if i go into hospitial for an same day appointment i am meant to tell them? how does that work with he right to privacy and family life.

That isn’t a stay in hospital.
Unfortunately if you wish to claim benefits you have to give up some privacy.

travelhear

Calicotti,

fundermentsl rights to privacy are that. If every person needs to write to the government and advice them about there person information , being disabled should not be a lawful reason for intrusive questions into a person life. We quickly move from a democracy to autocracy for people that  meet the demands they should be treated different from others .

that’s is very worrying . I would like to find the legislature that this is found on.

calcotti

My take would be that if you wish to claim benefits you need to provide information necessary to administer those benefits just as you do for tax purposes or medical reasons etc.
Obviously you are not obliged to claim benefits available to you if you do not wish to provide the required information.

travelhear

No, if you don’t stay over night and it’s day surgery , the state does not beee informed unless over 27days at whicjlh point they suspend entitlement to Dyla as the state is supporting you. 

That is a reasonable option within human rights legislation Z.

however on receiving the new form it’s asking fro every appointment and clinical
letter since last claim. 

Thee state rightfully expect you to know and inform of any change to your functioning not the every time you have seen a consultant. The new form is asking for this Z

 I hope thus clarifies matters 

Cher_Alumni

@Travelhear Hello there, I hope you are keeping well this Saturday morning  

As clarified by our other members, you don’t need to inform PIP about any hospital appointments or treatment not requiring an overnight stay.  This information is not asked for on the PIP2 form.

The Government webpage on ‘Going into hospital if you get benefits’ also states claimants must inform PIP if they go into hospital for one night or longer, as claims may be stopped or reduced where hospital stays aren’t reported. 

The exact information you need to pass on is:

·       full name
·       date of birth
·       National Insurance number

You need to give details about your stay in hospital, including:
·       the exact date you went into hospital
·       the exact date you left hospital (if you’ve left hospital)
·       the name of the hospital you were in
·       the name of the ward you were on (if you know it)
·       if you moved between hospitals
·       any other hospital stays in the last 28 days
·       where you were discharged to, for example your home or a care home

As per our house rules, please be careful to ensure information presented is correct and appropriate, using reliable sources to back up claims made. 

I appreciate filling in the PIP2 form can be taxing so if you have any difficulties do let us know or alternatively you can access independent local advice via the Advice Local website.

Good luck and best wishes.

travelhear

I have make the decisions to
leave the discussion group and will no longer be replying to any further correspondence 

Cher_Alumni

@travelhear I'm sorry to hear that.  Please email me at community@scope.org.uk so I can action your request.  Many thanks.