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Hi, my name is melx! Confused about where to send my papers

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melx
melx Community member Posts: 8 Listener
edited August 2021 in PIP, DLA, and AA
I have applied for pip and was refused 2 times. and my health has gone worse since after health issues and recovering artery surgery in 2019.of been Assaulted. I am affected daily and just recovering blood clots. lesion and manage to keep up[ with, I spoke to them stating I sent all extra documents of my health now. discharged from hospital. in which I had sent to the wrong address, not the tribunal. I recently contacted
pip and said I have more papers for the tribunal. advised not to go off my cab support. and start afresh. she said just send the papers to the tribunal. now I am confused as to where I send them now. 

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  • Ross_Alumni
    Ross_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,652 Disability Gamechanger
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    Hello @melx and welcome to the community.

    I have moved your discussion to our PIP category and hopefully you will receive an answer soon.

    You seem to have a lot going on at the minute with your health, I hope you are receiving all the support you need as part of your recovery. It concerns me to read that you have been assaulted, was that in 2019 or recently? Was the incident reported and dealt with?
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  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,150 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2021
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    Hi @melx - welcome to the community. If I'm understanding this correctly, you are waiting for a PIP Tribunal, & Citizens Advice have said to send your papers to the tribunal, but not to attend. PIP tribunals just done looking at the paperwork are just 5-8% successful, whereas attending in person (or having a phone tribunal), the success rate is more like 75%. With that, I think you've had poor advice.
    Any papers you have should be sent to HMCTS (HM Courts & Tribunal Service), & also send a copy to the DWP. Can you get a representative to help you If Citizens Advice are reluctant? You could try searching here to try & get a representative if that's the case: https://advicelocal.uk/    perhaps there might be a Welfare Rights Office that can help.
    Starting 'afresh' (yet with the same info) would likely end up with a repeat of what's happening now, & having to appeal again, so definitely an idea to get some better advice.
    Kindly let us know how you get on, thank you.
  • melx
    melx Community member Posts: 8 Listener
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    Hello i was fighting my case after 14mnths refused by CICA and appealed it at tribuneral. And won by fully co operating with the police. and fully succeeded. As I had bin moved through D.v new area and assaulted by my previous neighbor in between. So I had 2 cases ongoing and the police I feel let me down.
  • Ross_Alumni
    Ross_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,652 Disability Gamechanger
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    Hello @melx

    Thanks for your response, so it seems as though you were the victim of multiple assaults? The DV which you mentioned there and another by the neighbour? I'm sorry to hear this, have both cases been dealt with and did you receive any support to recover from them? you mentioned that the police let you down, what makes you say that?
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  • melx
    melx Community member Posts: 8 Listener
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    The police dealt with it all but with the pandemic and misunderstandings i got justice but whom attacked me was very lucky restorative justice x:{
  • melx
    melx Community member Posts: 8 Listener
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    chiarieds said:
    Hi @melx - welcome to the community. If I'm understanding this correctly, you are waiting for a PIP Tribunal, & Citizens Advice have said to send your papers to the tribunal, but not to attend. PIP tribunals just done looking at the paperwork are just 5-8% successful, whereas attending in person (or having a phone tribunal), the success rate is more like 75%. With that, I think you've had poor advice.
    Any papers you have should be sent to HMCTS (HM Courts & Tribunal Service), & also send a copy to the DWP. Can you get a representative to help you If Citizens Advice are reluctant? You could try searching here to try & get a representative if that's the case: https://advicelocal.uk/    perhaps there might be a Welfare Rights Office that can help.
    Starting 'afresh' (yet with the same info) would likely end up with a repeat of what's happening now, & having to appeal again, so definitely an idea to get some better advice.
    Kindly let us know how you get on, thank you.
    Hello, i have had my assessment and was refused twice. it is at tribunal stage i was told.
    asto been poorly when  I spoke and told just to send my letters showing my issues but not sure where and to send them to now 

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,150 Disability Gamechanger
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    Hello - send a copy to both the tribunal & the DWP. You should have return addresses on letters from them both.
  • melx
    melx Community member Posts: 8 Listener
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    I explained i had sent them to Wolverhampton. but its all messed up since and told it was ready for tribunal.
     i just feel mentally worse trying to amend this situation 
  • melx
    melx Community member Posts: 8 Listener
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    I appreciate your comments any support advice helps thankyou
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,150 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2021
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    Hi, & thank you for the post on my wall.
    - So, have you got a date yet for your PIP tribunal?
    - Have you received your 'bundle,' & have you looked through it to see that all you expect is there?
    - I presume you've done everything by post, but just in case did you do an online appeal?
    - was the evidence you sent off, I'm presuming comparatively recently, all 'medical evidence,' & did this relate as to how you were at the time of your assessment?

  • melx
    melx Community member Posts: 8 Listener
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    The evidence I sent is after my assessment
    And I was refused again. Then I applied to the tribunal. then I was admitted 11 days been seriously unwell.
    and support said from the cab to start again. so I spoke with pip and was told it wasn't necessary to start again. Just that
    I can send more papers to attach to my file for the tribunal. I have no email for sending them and if tried not the right address 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 16,150 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2021
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    Hi there @melx - then as the evidence relates to after you had your assessment, don't worry about it, as your tribunal will just be focusing on how you were at the time of your assessment....any worsening of conditions wouldn't be taken into account, &, if mentioned in your tribunal, may lead them to come to the conclusion that you should make a fresh claim, when it's usually better to continue with a tribunal.
    If you have anything relevant to send, then, yes, you can attach these, if you sign in to your existing appeal.
    So, nothing to amend, & you have a way to send anything relevant with your existing online appeal.
    Your medical diagnoses won't be in dispute, the tribunal will just want to know about any difficulties you face as regards the PIP activities/descriptors. If you haven't looked at these before, please have a look at this link: https://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/asset-library/Personal-Independence-Payment-Descriptors-and-Scores-April-2021.pdf    & please read the notes at the end, including the following, which are important:
    '......whether the claimant can carry out the activity:
    • safely, in a manner unlikely to cause harm to themselves or to another person, either during or after completion of the activity
    • to an acceptable standard, given the nature of the activity

    • repeatedly – as often as the activity is reasonably required to be completed

    • in a reasonable time period – this is no more than twice as long as it would normally take someone without a physical or mental condition to complete the activity'
    Hope some of this helps.
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