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Attend events to tell the DWP what you think about the design of the benefits system and assessments

Tori_Scope
Tori_Scope Posts: 9,505 Scope online community team
The DWP are running some consultation events so that they can hear your views on the health and disability green paper.

Health and Disability Consultation Event: Leicester

Date

Thursday 19 August

Time

1 to 4pm

Venue

Mercure Leiceste
The Grand Hotel
Granby Street
LE1 6ES

Rethinking Assessments

  • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper. This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
  • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
  • In the event we will ask you for your views on alternative approaches to health & disability benefit assessments.
  • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time, and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

To book your place

Visit Eventbrite.

To find out more, contact [email protected]

Health and Disability Consultation Event: Newcastle

Date

Tuesday 24 August

Time

1 to 4pm

Venue

Crowne Plaza Newcastle
Stephensons Quarter
Forth Street
NE1 3SA

Improving the design of the benefits system

  • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper. This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
  • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
  • In the event we will ask you for your views on changes that could be made to the structure of the main working-age health and disability benefits.
  • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time, and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

To book your place

Visit Eventbrite.

To find out more, contact [email protected]
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  • woodbine
    woodbine Member, Community Co-Production Group Posts: 7,710 Disability Gamechanger
    The DWP consult but never listen.
    Be extra nice to new members.
  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Member Posts: 3,130 Connected
    I’m actually tempted to sign up for the Newcastle one. 
  • Tori_Scope
    Tori_Scope Posts: 9,505 Scope online community team
    edited August 2021

    Health and Disability Consultation Event: Shrewsbury

    Date

    Thursday 2 September

    Time

    1 to 4pm

    Venue

    Mercure Shrewsbury
    Albrighton Hotel & Spa
    Ellesmere Road
    SY4 3AG

    Supporting Employment

    • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper. This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
    • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
    • In the event we will ask you for your views on support available to prepare for, find and stay in work.
    • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time, and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

    To book your place

    Visit Eventbrite.

    To find out more, contact: [email protected]

    Health and Disability Consultation Event: Norwich

    Date

    Wednesday 8 September

    Time

    1 to 4pm

    Venue

    Mercure Norwich Hotel
    121 – 131 Boundary Roa
    Norwich
    NR3 2BA

    Rethinking Assessments

    • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper. This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
    • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
    • In the event we will ask you for your views on alternative approaches to health & disability benefit assessments. 
    • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time, and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

    To book your place

    Visit Eventbrite.

    To find out more, contact: [email protected]

    Health and disability consultation event: Wrexham

    Date

    Tuesday 14 September

    Time

    1 to 4pm

    Venue

    Ramada Plaza Wyndham
    Ellis Way
    Wrexham
    LL13 7YH

    Improving the Benefits System

    • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper. This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
    • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
    • In the event we will ask you for your views on alternative approaches to health & disability benefit assessments. 
    • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

    To book your place 

    Visit Eventbrite.

    To find out more, contact: [email protected]
    Online Community Coordinator, she/her

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  • Lee39
    Lee39 Member Posts: 68 Connected
    The government does not want to hear my thoughts haha  :| , i would probably get arrested 
  • littleacorn
    littleacorn Member Posts: 269 Pioneering
    I have signed up for the Newcastle event. Is anyone else attending?
  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Member Posts: 3,130 Connected
    I have signed up for the Newcastle event. Is anyone else attending?
    I was thinking about it but it clashes with a hospital referral I’ve had through so I can’t. Let me know how it goes though please? 
  • littleacorn
    littleacorn Member Posts: 269 Pioneering
  • littleacorn
    littleacorn Member Posts: 269 Pioneering
    I attended the Shaping Future Support Green Paper event today at Newcastle. Well it was attended by 6 disabled people and 6 DWP staff some of which had travelled from London this morning. It was so disappointing the lack of disabled people and I am not sure how well it was advertised. 

    The DWP staff wanted to know your experiences both positive and negative about claiming benefits, where there were problems and how you think this could be simplified. They wanted to know what your thoughts were of having one assessment for ESA/UC and PIP. 

    In a nutshell people seemed to share freely but not sure how much this will influence change or even really listened to. DWP staff seemed genuine but not sure how much influence or say they really have. 

    You can make your comments directly on this consultation through the DWP website and they are having zoom meeting if you are interested.
  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Member Posts: 3,130 Connected
    @littleacorn I’m glad you went along because at least you got to share your thoughts, I do hope if they have gone to this effort than you would think they would take onboard what people have to say. 

    I might have a look into the virtual meeting on offer. 
  • Lisatho11987777
    Lisatho11987777 Member Posts: 5,787 Disability Gamechanger
    The problem is events are put in place but people don't go 
  • littleacorn
    littleacorn Member Posts: 269 Pioneering
    Some very interesting points there. They said they were expecting 15 which in its self is not a great number and the peoplerunning the session had no idea where it had been advertised. They had no idea of how wheelchairs should leave the building  and said someone will come and get you when challenged on it. 

    It annoys me so much when people automatically go into powerpoint mode and more so the DWP at a disability event. I shouldn't be shocked really in this day and age! No kdea about loop servjce but they never mentioned it. There was someone there with autism and she left after 10mins.
  • Tori_Scope
    Tori_Scope Posts: 9,505 Scope online community team
    edited September 2021
    The DWP have some more consultation events coming up. We haven't ignored the above feedback, but I just wanted to share in case anyone wanted to attend any of the upcoming events.

    Health and Disability Consultation Event: Canterbury

    Date

    Thursday 16 September

    Time

    10 to 1pm

    Venue

    Canterbury Cathedral Lodge
    The Precincts
    Canterbury
    CT1 2EH

    Improving Employment Support

    • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper.
    • This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
    • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
    • In the event we will ask you for your views on support available to prepare for, find and stay in employment.
    • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

    To book your place

    Visit Eventbrite.

    To find out more, contact: [email protected]

    Health and disability consultation event: Bournemouth

    Date

    Thursday 23 September

    Time

    1 to 4pm

    Venue

    The Hermitage Hotel
    Exeter Road
    Bournemouth
    BH2 5AH

    Improving the design of the benefits system

    • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper. This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
    • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
    • In the event we will ask you for your views on changes that could be made to the design of the main working age, health, and disability benefits system.
    • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

    To book your place 

    Visit Eventbrite.

    To find out more, contact: [email protected]

    Health and Disability Consultation Event: Leeds

    Date

    Tuesday 28 September

    Time

    10 to 1pm

    Venue

    The Clayton Hotel
    Sweet Street
    Holbeck
    LS11 9AT

    Supporting Employment

    • The DWP has recently published Shaping Future Support: the Health and Disability Green Paper. This asks for your views on how we can improve the benefits system and employment support for disabled people and people with health conditions.
    • As part of the public consultation we are holding events to hear people’s views on the proposals in the Green Paper. 
    • In the event we will ask you for your views on support available to prepare for, find, and stay in employment.
    • Members of the public attending the event will be given vouchers to compensate you for your time, and reimbursed for your travel and parking costs.

    To book your place

    Visit Eventbrite.

    To find out more, contact: [email protected]
    Online Community Coordinator, she/her

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  • Cher_Inactive
    Cher_Inactive Posts: 4,400 Scope online community team

    Just to update everyone:

    There was an error on the information initially provided and the consultation event to be held in Canterbury on Thursday 16 September will focus on support available to disabled people to prepare for, seek and stay in work rather than rethinking assessments.

    @Tori_Scope 's post above has been amended to reflect this change.
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  • Ross_Scope
    Ross_Scope Posts: 7,398 Scope online community team
    The DWP have some more consultation events coming up, you can find details below for newly added events in Bolton and London:

    London

    Date: Tuesday 5th October, 1-4pm

    Venue: Holiday Inn London – Kensington Forum, 97 Cromwell Road, SW7 4DN

    Booking link: DWP Health & Disability Consultation Event: London Tickets, Tue 5 Oct 2021 at 13:00 | Eventbrite

    Bolton

    Date: Thursday 7th October, 1-4pm

    Venue: Bolton Arena, Arena Approach, Horwich, BL6 6LB

    Booking link: DWP Health & Disability Consultation Event: Bolton Tickets, Thu 7 Oct 2021 at 13:00 | Eventbrite


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  • newborn
    newborn Member Posts: 746 Pioneering
    As one might have suspected, those making a career out of 'dealing with' disabled people have never considered  Disability Discrimination.   In this activity, they prove their own guilt of an offence under the Equalities Acts.   Did they do an Equalities Impact Assessment?   Did those employed on public funds to do an E.I.A. consider the prospect of these physical meeting places, and then declare there was no, repeat no, indirect or direct discrimination involved?     Really? Have they taken a fee, or settled back on their big fat salaries and public purse pension rights, after stating the plan is not discriminatory?   Not discriminatory against disabled people?  That despite pandemic, despite shielding, despite the need to shelter disabled people and their relatives, despite the fact a significant group of people are physically unable to leave their homes to travel, and despite the obvious "reasonable adjustment" of making participation on line and by zoom?  

    Most people can comprehend Race and Religious Discrimination.  Would it be o.k. to hold events about race, and religion but in such a way as to ensure   the exclusion of racial and religious groups?   Organise meetings in a pub, with strippers in the background, and see if it discriminates against participation by Muslims, especially women.  What about discriminating by sex, organising meetings late in the evening when many women will be afraid to venture out,  Indirect discrimination is still discrimination.   The great majority of Disability Discrimination is "Invisible, Indirect, Institutionalised, and worse in it's effects on people's lives than Racism" Sir Trevor Phillips. 

    Who in Scope waved this through without protest?  Does Scope have any lawyer? Any staff or volunteer who has heard of the Equality Act and the Public Duty?  Were they asked?

    Willingly or unwittingly,  Scope's good name will be used as the rubber stamp to cover the backs of offenders.  "We consulted the entire disabled community, by sending a press release to Scope"   

     Please Scope, can you do what none of us can, and politiely insist on a copy of their E.I.A,, detailing why they concluded  it is not discriminatory to hold meetings by physical attendance with no reasonable adjustment alternative option to meet the needs of disabled people?    You can ask them as we cannot, if they think excluding black people from consultation is fine?   Especially from a consultation particularly relevant to ethnic groups?   If they do not think they would do such a thing, then you could insist on an explanation of  why they think it  is fine to exclude disabled people even from a consultation on disabled people? 

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