why were people on ESA ignored when people on UC got an extra £20 per week
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From Wednesday your Work Allowance will increase to £335 and the taper rate on the remainder of your earnings will reduce from 63% to 55%.lisathomas50 said:..but I cant afford to stop working the 293.00 I am allowed to earn before anything is stopped out of my uc is helping towards my extra rent3 -
ive been told by people on this site that if my wife and myself applied to to go onto UC we would be financially better off than remaining on ESA, but through worrying we could possibly end up worse off we've stayed on ESA.
but i can assure you we are no better off than than anyone else on benefits,my wife and i dont buy each other or our adult children on birthdays and xmas.
we have exactly the same amount of direct debits going out our bank account as every other family on benefits,each month, and like other people on benefits we dont have a penny left ! weve had to get used to having nothing,ie,drinks,cigs,hols,day trips,a meal out is impossible,no new clothes ,shoes, over the past few years,its very hard,and its just an existance of a life,but we learn not to get envious of other peoples lives,thats just the way it must be.
i was a subcontract painter and decorator for many years and was regulary told, ive got no work for you for a month with no notice,i didnt get paid for that month,i had to go on the dole for a month,on £30 a week,a big drop from the £200 a week i was earning,this happened to me regular,no one made my wages up, i had to have benefits?
all of us on benefits should try and help others in the same position,and not make them feel guilty because they wondered why they never got the £20 a week top up on their benefits, like other benefits recieved,whats wrong with that?
i dont always understand some of the words used on this site, and meaning of different benefits,but i do know i have been given great advice and information i never new about, by some lovely helpful people on this site who only wish to help other people by giving up their own time for free!0 -
i must admit i'm not the brain of brittain with benefits,i did like you say ,just accepted what was paid to us.
but with changes coming up soon when i hit retirement age our benefits will change a lot,so ive asked for advice on this site,and the advice as come, which i now understand the direction i need to go,but the people who gave me the advice on the site had to have a lot of patience with me,but they put me in the position where i now know what i need to do.
and thats why i admire the people who give advice on this site for free and in their own time,just to help others!0 -
Show me the money!0
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I saw someone say that the uplift was just to help those who had lost out in their working income due to the pandemic and so ppl on ESA would not be affected.
This statement is incorrect. Many ppl on ESA do work, although a limited number of hours a week. The pandemic has actually affected them MORE than abled bodied ppl on UC. Because many ppl who are on ESA and work part time have had to shield the entire time over this pandemic and still are, because lifting a lot of the protective measurements put a lot of disabled people at high risk, especially within a working environment.1 -
There is always disability discrimination and the government and NHS is guilty. That is why DLA was changed to pip. I do not think many of us would be better off on UC. It is another way of controlling disabled people. We are as entitled as much as others to the extra payment but they refuse to help us as usual just punish us for our health and or disability.2
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I have a disability and I am better off on universal credit my money went up quite a bit not every one on universal credit is able bodied I like working part time and I am now allowed to earn 335.00 a month with out getting anything stopped out of my universal credit since I have moved I am alot better off financly mentaly and a better house
Because I don't get the uprise now its mad I get more so at the moment touch wood me and mum are happy1 -
Quite the propagandistic spokesman for the government, you are...woodbine said:Basically yes, although you should keep in mind that when they introduced the £20 a week "uplift" it was to try and help people who were out of pocket due to the pandemic, those on ESA were not affected in that way.
The £20 a week was initially for 12 months at the cost of £6 billion it was extended by 6 months at the cost of another £3billion, there is no way the economy could extend such an ongoing expense and therefore it ends in two weeks time.
What was intended as a temporary uplift people now seem to think of as a right, it isn't, simple as that really.0 -
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It should not be on claimants for example to fix the fact that around only 10% of UC payments are correct in the first three assessment periods. That’s not about things landing in peoples laps. It’s about basic administrative competence.woodbine said:
The issue i have today is that people seem to expect the right amounts of the right benefits to land in their laps. Its doesn't quite work like that, but it is easier with the likes of google and gov. uk sites to help.
There's a perfect example of that here, there's a thread where a member was asking for advice regarding their UC claim. After a very long thread, advice was given based on what the member had said. They were advised that they were being dragistically underpaid.. fast forward a couple of weeks the person returned with an update and they were underpaid they had a letter onto their journal and they were underpaid by a figure of £40,000. Longer than 3 months of being underpaid of course but that amount of money is just insane.
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Hi @mootoo,
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Please be careful what you say. Not everyone shares the same sense of humour!1 -
But it's literally the truth. It's what the government all parrot, so what am I supposed to say, "oh, wow, you saying this is so unlike what the government says, like totally"?0
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Hi @mootoo,
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I literally responded to what they said...0
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Accusing someone of being a propagandist spokesperson is not commenting on what they said. Had you said something like “That’s what the government want us to believe but ...” that would have set a different tone.Mootoo said:I literally responded to what they said...1 -
Okay, sure, but you'll need to excuse my low toleration of this sort of nonsense, as recently even some Ocado busybody actually said "the gov'ment are working hard"... not to embezzle, to be sure, but that would be too honest. It's, like, literally all they know to do is some perverted form of PR, and they even get public agents, or just plain brainwashed people, to do it for them, and when people are suffering and dying due to them, hurting propagandists' feelings doesn't mean anything!0
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all i can say is that the advice on this site over the last 5-6 months as been worth its weight in gold to my wife and i.
weve always accepted that weve been paid the correct amounts of ESA by the dwp for the years weve been on it?
but with our circumstances changing soon ive asked for advice on this site,and 99% of the replys have been very helpful, and i now have it clear in my mind what steps we need to take to make sure were on the correct benefit for us,which i now know means applying for UC.
so thanks again to all the people on this site who gave up their time for free to help us and give positive advice,so thanks again to Poppy,Calcotti,Woodbine,and others, whove helped with very good advice.
i remember years ago there used to be benefit shops in most towns which were excellant,but theyve all been shut down,probably through lack of funding, and C.A which are also excellant have been closed due to covid,so for people like me who has to be told 2-3 times before it sinks in, this site as been a godsend.3 -
When I first went on universal credit after haveing esa for many years after four months I was trying to sort something out with my work coach which I was glad I did as she found out when esa I hadn't been moved over correctly and I was owed 5,000 pound
Again three weeks ago I was told I was being underpaid and received 750 00 pound now all is sorted and correct and I am ok and getting somewhere just gas and electric bill that is high so hopefuly haveing a pay as you go smart meter will help
As Mike says if you give all the correct information then if there is an underpayment that is not the claiments fault1 -
It won’t help with excessive use of gas due to your mum!lisathomas50 said:..haveing a pay as you go smart meter will help0 -
@lisathomas50 be careful as pre pay meters usually have a higher tariff dont know if that's changed recently but was the case when I had one
Maybe different in Wales3 -
@lisathomas50 I 100% agree with the above statement.Having changed from pay monthly to pay as you go my bills have almost tripled in the past 6 months, spending half my entitlement just to heat my home but I have a toddler and that’s a priority bill in my home.Definitely look into wether or not you would be better off on Pay monthly and that your on the right tariff.0
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