HELP. I'm suspended on my job. I'm asking about an advanced payment on UC. How much could I get? — Scope | Disability forum
New to the community? Remember to read our community guidelines and our community house rules.
Concerned about another member's safety or wellbeing? Find out how to let us know.

HELP. I'm suspended on my job. I'm asking about an advanced payment on UC. How much could I get?

thinkingsoul
thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
edited September 23 in Universal Credit (UC)
So I am currently suspended on my job and getting very little off them every week. universal credit asked me who I was employed by i told them and they manage to see how much I am earning or was, and I  going to apply for a advanced payment on my universal credit tomorrow morning, it says 324 it can give me? am sure the lady said it goes off your NI / how much your earning. Is this correct unless I'm wrong.
Tagged:

Comments

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    UC is based on earnings received during your assessment period... not your NI. If this is a new claim for UC then the advance payment you can have will be for your maximum UC entitlement. If you're a single person over the age of 25, with no rent to pay then your maximum UC entitlement will be £324. Any earnings received during your AP will reduce this by 63%.
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 12,311 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi  and welcome to the community 

    I don't know the answer to your question but if you have been suspended from work it should be on full pay 

    How long have you been suspended for and when is it likely to be resolved 
    Here to help with my experience in hunan resources and employment rights 
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 many thanks for your speedy response. she asked am I work I said I am still employed but suspended" and she had the system up knowing how much I earn from my company or did earn ect ect. she asked me who do I work for ect ect. I was completely honest. didn't think they would let me apply for it even though I'm employed and have very little coming in? 
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @janer1967 I am getting my 16hrs per week. I told the UC lady on the phone today when she called and she knew everything about how much I get ect ect. I have been suspended for 3 months now, i have my employment tribunal hearing on 10 December. but I told her I am not seeking how and won't be going back to them 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    If you're being paid for 16 hours per week while being suspended and you're not claiming for help with any rent there will be no UC entitlement because yoiur earnings will reduce it to zero.

  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 I have handed my notice in. and the lady on the phone said I am entitled to it. she checked how much I have earned ect ect. Plus I am not working. and can't afford my bills / rent. I was honest on my UC claim so not like I can get in trouble because they knew everything about my work earnings and everything.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 I've handed my notice in anyway. The lady said I can apply for it so that's what I have done. but thank you anyway :) 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    I never said you weren’t honest. I was giving advice based on what you said regarding the 16 hours.
    Your UC entitlement will be based on earnings received during your assessment period. 6 days before your expected payment date you will receive your statement and in there it will tell you what elements you’re entitled to, your earnings from employment, The deductions for any earnings received and what payment if anything you will receive in your bank. 
    The advance payment will need to be repaid back so please be aware of that.
    Do you rent your home or live with parents? 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 12,311 Disability Gamechanger
    The people you speak to at dwp don't always give best advise 

    They are outsourced call centre staff working from scripts and if they don't know the answer often make it up

    You won't get any better or more accurate advice than
    what poppy gives so I would rely more on her expertise than a call centre 

    I am also surprised you have resigned as you are missing out on the pay until a decision has been made about your employment 

    Have you had any expert advice about your situation I would suggest acas if not already been in touch 
    Here to help with my experience in hunan resources and employment rights 
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 sorry I didn't mean to sound funny I no what you mean. I appreciate your help. I really do. I have handed my notice in this afternoon, so no longer employed by them. I told the UC lady I have handed my notice in and she knew how much I am getting from them. she knew everything about my wages ect ect. She said your entitled to apply for a advanced payment and will need to pay it back every month. will it tell me how much I will get every month on my UC journel ? I am on higher rate care on PIP. she said I will get more money on UC not sure what she means.?
  • calcotti
    calcotti Member Posts: 3,039 Disability Gamechanger
    thinkingsoul said:..will it tell me how much I will get every month on my UC journel ? 
    Each month a statement will be posted to your UC journal confirming your payment for that month. The statement will appear a few days before you are paid.

    Have you reported your health conditions and supplied details of a Fit Note?
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    You still haven’t answered my question about renting. Do you rent your home or live with parents?
     
    If you have a health condition that limits your capability to work then you need to report that health condition onto your journal and send in fit notes from your GP. This will start the work capability assessment process off. 
    Claiming PIP doesn’t automatically entitle you to more UC. 
    Each month on your journal you will receive a statement as I previously advised. I know you have handed in your notice for work but any earnings you receive in the meantime will reduce your UC by 63%. 
    I will completely agree with @janer1967 that the person you spoke to is from a call centre and isn’t the best place to go for advice. 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 12,311 Disability Gamechanger
    They know your earnings as they have access to earnings reported for tax purposes 
    Here to help with my experience in hunan resources and employment rights 
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @calcotti I have listed all the health condition I have. and also a doctor's note for one month. 
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 I live with just my sick mum that's all. pay her for food ect bills. I no what you mean and I appreciate your advice.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @janer1967 I no they do as that's exactly what she said. she did say I am entitled to it. and knew how much I was earning and said if you ever start work , change mobile number or anything add it to your Journal. I told them I can't work and listed all my health problems. she said someone will call me tomorrow for my appointment. and said normally you would have to go in but said I don't have to ask I told her I can't. she was lovely. 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Member Posts: 3,039 Disability Gamechanger
    @poppy123456 I live with just my sick mum that's all. pay her for food ect bills. 
    You also said 
    ..and can't afford my bills / rent
    Even if you pay ‘rent’ to your mother UC will not provide help with this because you are renting from your mother.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @calcotti ok then. I no I am entitled to it regardless of what you say. but thanks 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    edited September 22
    @calcotti ok then. I no I am entitled to it regardless of what you say. but thanks 
    You will not be entitled to help with any rent because you live at home with your mother, Calcotti is correct here. 

    Your maximum UC entitlement will be  
    £324.84 per month. Which is why you’ve been offered an advance payment of the same amount because it’s your maximum entitlement as I advised.

    If you receive any final earnings from your employer within your assessment period then this will reduce your UC by 63% as previously advised. So do be aware that your first UC payment maybe reduced to zero because of earnings. 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Member Posts: 3,039 Disability Gamechanger
    I did not say you are not entitled to UC, only that you will not be entitled to help with rent if you are renting from your mum. (I’m still not clear whether or not you are paying rent.)

    After you have had a Work Capability Assessment, if you are found to have Limited Capability for Work and Work Related Activity you will be entitled to an extra £343/month from the fourth month of your claim. This may be what the person you spoke to was referring to but it is not related to your PIP.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @calcotti I appreciate your help. I'm not the sharpest tool in the box lol. I give my mum money every month when I get my PIP. it's just me and my mum. I signed up to UC as I've handed my notice in and don't want to work with horrible vile bullies. So got a hearing start of December. I do apologize it's just me saying the wrong thing that's all. so will I get 324 every month then? 
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 thank you for your help. all of you are stars! will I get 324 every month then? 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    @poppy123456 thank you for your help. all of you are stars! will I get 324 every month then? 

    No worries. Yes that's corect but as advised here...
    @calcotti ok then. I no I am entitled to it regardless of what you say. but thanks 

    If you receive any final earnings from your employer within your assessment period then this will reduce your UC by 63% as previously advised. So do be aware that your first UC payment maybe reduced to zero because of earnings. 


  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 your a 🌟 thank you so much for your speedy replies. it says on the 18th October it will tell me how much I'm going to get. does that sound correct? Just I'm not clued up with UC. Still learning it lol
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    It will depend on when you started your claim. If payment is expected on 24th October then yes statement on 18th October is correct. You will have a statement on 18th of each month going forward.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 once again thanks for your reply. I am going to get a fit note for 1 month off my doctor. as I can't work. do I just upload it when I get it from my doctor? also do I get loads of UC letters in post or is most of it done on my account? If that makes sense.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    You need to make sure you get the fit note and report it within 7 days of reporting your health condition. Yes, just report it onto your journal. If you can get your GP to write it for longer than 1 month it would be better. It is likely to take months to have the work capability assessment and you need to continue to send fit notes until a decisions been made on your claim. 
    UC is a digital claim so online only, you won’t receive any letters in the post. All letters will be uploaded onto your journal. 
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 perfect. I will get it uploaded tomorrow then. thank you so much for all your help. I agree the lady said it would take months anyway, she just said if you keep uploading your UC with them on you will still get paid. she was very helpful, told me how to report changes, how to use it. She was great! she said if I do decide to get a advanced payment I can get it the same day! not sure how true that is , as didn't no it could be in my account the same day tbh
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    No problem. Yes, advance payments are usually sent as fast payments and received on the same day.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 she said because she has verified me I can apply for it on my UC. Do I need to call them up? the lady said everything you need to no is all on your UC account. saves calling up all the time?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    @poppy123456 she said because she has verified me I can apply for it on my UC. 

    That’s correct.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 I've applied for a advanced payment. it says they will let me no it it's approved. also say it will be 27th September can't wait till Monday, do I tell them this? I no people that got it the same day in there bank ?
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 if you can get back to me that will be great
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    If it's approved all you can do is ask for a fast payment to be made.
  • thinkingsoul
    thinkingsoul Member Posts: 53 Connected
    @poppy123456 I have put it on my Journal. Or should I call them? I put it on a 8:10am this morning
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    You only put the message on 35 minutes ago...
  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Member Posts: 1,813 Pioneering
    I think you are going to have to give them time to reply. It hasn’t even been an hour yet. 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 23,842 Disability Gamechanger
    MarkN88 said:
    I think you are going to have to give them time to reply. It hasn’t even been an hour yet. 

    Yes indeed, my thoughts exactly.

Brightness

Do you need advice on your energy costs?


Scope’s Disability Energy Support service is open to any disabled household in England or Wales in which one or more disabled people live. You can get free advice from an expert adviser on managing energy debt, switching tariffs, contacting your supplier and more. Find out more information by visiting our
Disability Energy Support webpage.

Fancy a chat in our virtual coffee lounge?

Put the kettle on and have a chat in our coffee lounge with other members. We talk about hobbies, games and anything else you can think of!

Cerebral Palsy (CP) Online Cafe

Here's a new opportunity for people with CP or a similar disability (aged 20+) to get together and chat. The sessions are in partnership with CP Sport so you can find out more and meet people from both organisations.

Are you struggling?

Read our 'Coping with stress, low mood and isolation' support thread for a run-down of ideas on how to banish those blues and feel happier.

What do you think about the community?

Complete our feedback form and tell us how we can make the community a better space for you.

Information about COVID-19

If you have questions about the virus, please read our information and support which includes guidance on benefits, getting food and essentials and Cerebral Palsy.

Back to school this September?

Read tips on how to settle back in and handle any worries you or your children might be having this new term.