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PIP Denied

Gazzanova
Gazzanova Member Posts: 5 Listener
edited November 2021 in PIP, DLA, and AA
Hi I've just been on the phone to dwp to ask for my Pip assessment form. 

She told me there has been a decision letter sent out on Friday, she told me I wouldn't be getting pip as stated on the letter. 

I was told by my psychiatrist I should be on PIP,so I'm totally confused.

I suffer with chronic daily migraines and mental health issues. 

I am currently on ESA non support group too. 

I'm not sure what to do now, if you point me in the right direction that would be great. 

Thank You

Comments

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 25,651 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,
    PIP isn’t awarded based on any diagnosis, it’s how those conditions affect your ability to carry out daily activity based on the PIP descriptors. 
    You can request the Mandatory Reconsideration (MR) where another decision maker will look at everything again and make another decision.

    You should put this in writing stating where and why you think you should have scored those points. If you haven’t already then you should add a couple of real world examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you. 

    I would say it’s very unlikely that a Psychiatrist will have any understanding of the PIP descriptors and the criteria. 
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 6,095 Disability Gamechanger
    first of all @Gazzanova good afternoon and a warm welcome to scope, your psychiatrist isn't the DWP however PIP is awarded not for what's wrong with you but how it affects your daily living and/or mobility v the descriptors.
    wait for the letter as confirmation then the next step is a MR (mandatory reconsideration) basically another decision maker will look at your application, you have to do this before you can appeal.
    Look at where you haven't scored points that you think you should have and why.
    It might be an idea to try and get help from welfare rights or CAB.

    Let us know how you get on.
    Be kind to newer members
  • Gazzanova
    Gazzanova Member Posts: 5 Listener
    Thanks for your quick response poppy. 

    The lady on the phone advised that I think, I've just received a text saying "you've asked us to look at our recent PIP decision again" 

    Is this the Mandatory Reconsideration?

    When I had my assessment the lady on the phone said your form is really well filled in. So I'm totally confused. 
  • Gazzanova
    Gazzanova Member Posts: 5 Listener
    woodbine said:
    first of all @Gazzanova good afternoon and a warm welcome to scope, your psychiatrist isn't the DWP however PIP is awarded not for what's wrong with you but how it affects your daily living and/or mobility v the descriptors.
    wait for the letter as confirmation then the next step is a MR (mandatory reconsideration) basically another decision maker will look at your application, you have to do this before you can appeal.
    Look at where you haven't scored points that you think you should have and why.
    It might be an idea to try and get help from welfare rights or CAB.

    Let us know how you get on.
    Thank you woodbine, should I go to citizens advice and see if they can help me? 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 25,651 Disability Gamechanger
    Them at text would be the MR request.
    Gazzanova said:
    When I had my assessment the lady on the phone said your form is really well filled in. So I'm totally confused. 
    This doesn’t mean anything. The assessor doesn’t award points, they make recommendations based on everything you sent and what you said during the assessment.
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Member Posts: 13,348 Disability Gamechanger
    You still need to put the mr in writing to get the best outcome as detailed by poppy 

    Doing it over the phone means you are relying on a call handler putting down all you have said 
    By writing it down gives you time to think about it and you cab keep a copy fir reference 
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 6,095 Disability Gamechanger
    Gazzanova said:
    woodbine said:
    first of all @Gazzanova good afternoon and a warm welcome to scope, your psychiatrist isn't the DWP however PIP is awarded not for what's wrong with you but how it affects your daily living and/or mobility v the descriptors.
    wait for the letter as confirmation then the next step is a MR (mandatory reconsideration) basically another decision maker will look at your application, you have to do this before you can appeal.
    Look at where you haven't scored points that you think you should have and why.
    It might be an idea to try and get help from welfare rights or CAB.

    Let us know how you get on.
    Thank you woodbine, should I go to citizens advice and see if they can help me? 
    I would tele them first, also try welfare rights if there is one in your area.
    Be kind to newer members
  • ChrisH90
    ChrisH90 Member Posts: 19 Listener
    Gazzanova said:
    Hi I've just been on the phone to dwp to ask for my Pip assessment form. 

    She told me there has been a decision letter sent out on Friday, she told me I wouldn't be getting pip as stated on the letter. 

    I was told by my psychiatrist I should be on PIP,so I'm totally confused.

    I suffer with chronic daily migraines and mental health issues. 

    I am currently on ESA non support group too. 

    I'm not sure what to do now, if you point me in the right direction that would be great. 

    Thank You
    I was denied pip too whole process taken 9 months and scored 0 points, The disgusting lady on the telephone assessment just lied, Which I noted in my Mandatory Reconsideration.
  • Gazzanova
    Gazzanova Member Posts: 5 Listener
    ChrisH90 said:
    Gazzanova said:
    Hi I've just been on the phone to dwp to ask for my Pip assessment form. 

    She told me there has been a decision letter sent out on Friday, she told me I wouldn't be getting pip as stated on the letter. 

    I was told by my psychiatrist I should be on PIP,so I'm totally confused.

    I suffer with chronic daily migraines and mental health issues. 

    I am currently on ESA non support group too. 

    I'm not sure what to do now, if you point me in the right direction that would be great. 

    Thank You
    I was denied pip too whole process taken 9 months and scored 0 points, The disgusting lady on the telephone assessment just lied, Which I noted in my Mandatory Reconsideration.
    Exact same happened to me, Ive sent in about 20 pages of evidence and my mandatory reconsideration letter. Fingers crossed. 
  • ChrisH90
    ChrisH90 Member Posts: 19 Listener
    Gazzanova said:
    ChrisH90 said:
    Gazzanova said:
    Hi I've just been on the phone to dwp to ask for my Pip assessment form. 

    She told me there has been a decision letter sent out on Friday, she told me I wouldn't be getting pip as stated on the letter. 

    I was told by my psychiatrist I should be on PIP,so I'm totally confused.

    I suffer with chronic daily migraines and mental health issues. 

    I am currently on ESA non support group too. 

    I'm not sure what to do now, if you point me in the right direction that would be great. 

    Thank You
    I was denied pip too whole process taken 9 months and scored 0 points, The disgusting lady on the telephone assessment just lied, Which I noted in my Mandatory Reconsideration.
    Exact same happened to me, Ive sent in about 20 pages of evidence and my mandatory reconsideration letter. Fingers crossed. 
    Hopefully someone honest at the DWP will look at the mandatory reconsideration, I sent it in on the 13th December.
  • Gazzanova
    Gazzanova Member Posts: 5 Listener
    ChrisH90 said:
    Gazzanova said:
    ChrisH90 said:
    Gazzanova said:
    Hi I've just been on the phone to dwp to ask for my Pip assessment form. 

    She told me there has been a decision letter sent out on Friday, she told me I wouldn't be getting pip as stated on the letter. 

    I was told by my psychiatrist I should be on PIP,so I'm totally confused.

    I suffer with chronic daily migraines and mental health issues. 

    I am currently on ESA non support group too. 

    I'm not sure what to do now, if you point me in the right direction that would be great. 

    Thank You
    I was denied pip too whole process taken 9 months and scored 0 points, The disgusting lady on the telephone assessment just lied, Which I noted in my Mandatory Reconsideration.
    Exact same happened to me, Ive sent in about 20 pages of evidence and my mandatory reconsideration letter. Fingers crossed. 
    Hopefully someone honest at the DWP will look at the mandatory reconsideration, I sent it in on the 13th December.
    Fingers crossed for you, just be prepared to appeal cause that's what I'm doing 
  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 8,295 Disability Gamechanger
    It’s not the role of a HCP to simply copy down what you say. If it was then there would be no reason to have an assessment. 

    You should resist accusing HCPs of lies. It’s not legally provable and will play very badly at tribunal where one of the three people making the decision will be a medical professional.
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 6,095 Disability Gamechanger
    ChrisH90 said:
    Gazzanova said:
    Hi I've just been on the phone to dwp to ask for my Pip assessment form. 

    She told me there has been a decision letter sent out on Friday, she told me I wouldn't be getting pip as stated on the letter. 

    I was told by my psychiatrist I should be on PIP,so I'm totally confused.

    I suffer with chronic daily migraines and mental health issues. 

    I am currently on ESA non support group too. 

    I'm not sure what to do now, if you point me in the right direction that would be great. 

    Thank You
    I was denied pip too whole process taken 9 months and scored 0 points, The disgusting lady on the telephone assessment just lied, Which I noted in my Mandatory Reconsideration.
    I have to say that just because you disagree with what they say doesn't always mean they lie, they write a report based on what's presented in the application and what's said on the day during the assessment, basing an MR on perceived lies won't help your case.
    Be kind to newer members

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