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Transition Protection

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WelshmanTimbo
WelshmanTimbo Community member Posts: 2 Listener
edited February 2022 in Universal Credit (UC)
With rising Bill's and universal credit rising by only 3.1% people on transitional protection because of a move from another benefit will see no increase in money at all as you will be losing money on you're top up amount.  why is this unfair practice allowed to happen and what can we do to end it. 

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,010 Disability Gamechanger
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    That is correct. Any increases in other elements are taken off the transitional amount. In effect people with a transitional amount have their UC capped at a fixed amount until such time as the transitional amount is fully eroded (which could be several/many years.

    People who were transferred from IB to ESA were treated in the same way.

    Not saying it is fair though.
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  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 12,112 Disability Gamechanger
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    Yes it's happened before, as above that's not to say it's fair, but at least people are getting the transition protection for some years to come

    2024 Election won

  • janer1967
    janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,964 Disability Gamechanger
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    It doesn't seem fair but try and think of it the other way that while you have have the transitional payment in place you are getting more than those who are new claimants 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,135 Disability Gamechanger
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    janer1967 said:
    It doesn't seem fair but try and think of it the other way that while you have have the transitional payment in place you are getting more than those who are new claimants 

    Yes but new claimants will not have been previously claiming the SDP in another benefit, therefore they wouldn't really be missing out on anything. Even with the SDP transitional payment a claimant can still be worse off by claiming UC.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • janer1967
    janer1967 Community member Posts: 21,964 Disability Gamechanger
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    True @poppy123456 was just trying to put a positive view out there 
  • androgynous
    androgynous Community member Posts: 87 Pioneering
    edited February 2022
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    https://policyinpractice.co.uk/what-end-of-sdp-gateway-means-for-disabled-people-moving-to-universal-credit/


    3. Households whose transitional payments will erode quickly

    The SDP transitional element is a measure introduced by the government to soften the blow when people move from legacy benefits onto Universal Credit. It is designed to decrease over time, so that in the long run, no one will be receiving SDP in working-age legacy benefits or a SDP transitional element. If your circumstances change and any element of your Universal Credit (apart from the childcare costs element) increases, your transitional element will decrease by the same amount. For some households, this erosion will happen quickly. 


    There are examples of how quickly the value of Transitional Protection can decrease, (within 2 years).


    As it says, No one will be receiving SDP in working-age legacy benefits or a SDP transitional element in the long run, however long that takes.


    A very explanatory read.

    Edit -  Lets not forget the EDP

    2. Households who lose other elements of their legacy benefits when they move to Universal Credit

    The transitional element of Universal Credit only compensates for the loss of SDP. This means that people can still lose hundreds of pounds a month when they move to Universal Credit depending on their circumstances. Indeed, disabled people in receipt of the Enhanced Disability Premium (EDP) have never benefited from the SDP gateway and have already been moving onto Universal Credit. They tend to receive less money under Universal Credit since there is no equivalent for the EDP within Universal Credit, and they do not receive any transitional payments.


    Whilst the idea that someone isn't going to miss what they never had, it's still affecting some of the most vulnerable people in society, and that to me, is unacceptable.

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