Hi, my name is milo2022! Will a live in carer impact benefits such as PIP, housing benefit and ESA?

Sue_Alumni

Sorry -I just replied to the notification I received.  Thank you for your input anyway.  

Sue_Alumni

Hi 
I've just been thinking further about whether your UC will be affected if you move in with A.  In addition to not getting your housing costs for the reasons stated above I just wanted to check whether you are getting a transitional SDP amount in your UC. If you were entitled to a severe disability premium in your old benefit and transferred to UC by natural migration before 16 January 2019,  when the rules were changed to prevent you from doing so, you may be getting an extra amount in your UC.  This amount is called the "transitional SDP amount". If you move in with A you will lose this amount as you will not be living alone. You could be treated as living alone and thereby retain this amount if you have a legally enforceable tenancy at a commercial rent. 

poppy123456

Sue_Scope said:

If you move in with A you will lose this amount as you will not be living alone.

I don't think that's correct. Once someone has met these conditions, s/he continues to have the element included in her/his calculation regardless of whether or not s/he continues to satisfy the conditions for an SDP.

https://askcpag.org.uk/content/206411/the-new-transitional-sdp-element

calcotti

Sue_Scope said:  If you were entitled to a severe disability premium in your old benefit and transferred to UC by natural migration before 16 January 2019,  when the rules were changed to prevent you from doing so, you may be getting an extra amount in your UC.  This amount is called the "transitional SDP amount". If you move in with A you will lose this amount as you will not be living alone. 

That is not correct. There are changes of circumstance taht result in losing the SDP element but that is not one of them. Somebody who has an SDP transitional element keeps it even if they would no longer qualify for an SDP itself. 

Sue_Alumni

Yes thank you both for putting me right on this but any transitional payment  would end if the OP forms a couple with A ?

poppy123456

Sue_Scope said:

Yes thank you both for putting me right on this but any transitional payment  would end if the OP forms a couple with A ?

In this case it would erode anyway because the couples element alone would increase their UC entitlement to more than £120 per month. The OP has already said they won't be a couple with A.

calcotti

Sue_Scope said:

Yes thank you both for putting me right on this but any transitional payment  would end if the OP forms a couple with A ?

Yes it would end in that situation, but that isn't what your post said.

poppy123456 said: In this case it would erode anyway because the couples element alone would increase their UC entitlement to more than £120 per month. The OP has already said they won't be a couple with A.

It wouldn't erode, it would be removed.
Transitional element - Entitledto

Your transitional element will be removed if, for example:

• a partner leaves or joins your household

• you were earning above the administrative earnings threshold of £79.70 a week in your first assessment period, but your earnings have since dropped beneath this level for three assessment periods in a row (for couples this is a combined earnings threshold of £127.40 a week)

• your Universal Credit award ends

(Not relevant to this thread but the middle bullet point is a particular trap. Am aware of one person who was paid a bonus in their pay period that fell in their first UC AP which meant they fell foul of this rule and lost the SDP element. Completely unfair.)

Sue_Alumni

Thank you both for your comments

poppy123456

Thanks calcotti. It's all a moot point anyway because it's already been stated the OP will not be living as a couple.

milo2022

I was working upto dec 20 and then started on the sick and i dont get the severe disability premium added on 

Sue_Alumni

OK thanks for updating us.  Have you had a chance of considering the information that has been posted?