Payment date for PIP

Wibbles

Why has my payment date been delayed from 04 June (decision date + 1 month) to 08 June ?

I thought that the first payment was made a month after the decision date ?

poppy123456

PIP is paid 4 weekly in arrears. If it starts from 8th June then your first payment will be for 3 weeks money. Future payments will be for 4 weeks money. When transferring from DLA PIP starts once DLA ends. You should receive a final DLA payment.

Wibbles

I am trying to find out why my PIP does not start until 08 June - when the letter telling me that my claim was sucessful is dated 04 May - should my first payment not be 04 June ?

poppy123456

It will depend when your DLA
ends. 

calcotti

I think the question of how PIP payment start dates are calculated when transferring from DLA was thoroughly thrashed out in a previous thread with this OP and the advice given was that the first Pip payment date would be 7 or 8 weeks after the PIP decision. That advise was, as I recall, not accepted by OP. Unfortunately i can't find the thread. 

The dates bear out the advice previously given.

(Apologies to OP if I have mixed them up with somebody else.)

calcotti

Wibbles said:

I am trying to find out why my PIP does not start until 08 June - when the letter telling me that my claim was sucessful is dated 04 May - should my first payment not be 04 June ?

According to the letter your PIP does start from 8th June but is then paid in arrears so you have to wait a number of weeks before you get paid.

calcotti

Here's the previous thread
https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/88674/question-regarding-pip-application/p1
See my previous advice in that thread

See DWP guidance
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/814635/admp5.pdf

P5062  When an assessment determination is made by the DM on a claim by a transfer claimant
the DM will, as soon as is practicable, send the claimant written notification of the outcome decision and
DLA will be terminated, on the last day of the period of 28 days starting with the first pay day after the making of the determination.

P5063  When the outcome decision is an award of either or both PIP components, the claimant’s entitlement to PIP will begin
from the day immediately following the day the claimant’s entitlement to DLA terminates or
immediately following the last day of the period of 28 days as calculated in P5035 starting with the first pay day after making the determination.

So the decision was made on 8th May. You DLA stops on the DLA payment date after the decision is made which will presumably be 7th June. Your PIP starts the day after on 8th June.

Note added at request of calcotti: Advice in concluding paragraph of this post is incorrect. See next post by calcotti for correction.

Wibbles

calcotti said:

Here's the previous thread
https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/88674/question-regarding-pip-application/p1
See my previous advice in that thread

See DWP guidance
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/814635/admp5.pdf

P5062  When an assessment determination is made by the DM on a claim by a transfer claimant
the DM will, as soon as is practicable, send the claimant written notification of the outcome decision and
DLA will be terminated, on the last day of the period of 28 days starting with the first pay day after the making of the determination.

P5063  When the outcome decision is an award of either or both PIP components, the claimant’s entitlement to PIP will begin
from the day immediately following the day the claimant’s entitlement to DLA terminates or
immediately following the last day of the period of 28 days as calculated in P5035 starting with the first pay day after making the determination.

So the decision was made on 8th May. You DLA stops on the DLA payment date after the decision is made which will presumably be 7th June. Your PIP starts the day after on 8th June.

No - the decision was made on 04May - as per the letter! 

calcotti

Wibbles said: No - the decision was made on 04May - as per the letter! 

Typo.

Reading my post again however, the statement "Your DLA stops on the DLA payment date after the decision is made " was incorrect. Should have said (as per previous thread) "DLA stops 28 days from your next DLA payment date after the decision".

I infer therefore that your next DLA payment date is 11th May. DLA therefore ends on 7th June. PIP therefore starts on 8th June.

poppy123456

In your previous thread linked above you didn't believe the advice you were given that PIP starts several weeks after the decision is made. This is proof right here that the advice was indeed correct.

Wibbles

Do I detect JEALOUSY in these responses?
Why? 

MarkM88

Wibbles said:

Do I detect JEALOUSY in these responses?
Why? 

Why would anyone be jealous? Members are replying to your questions. The payment dates are not wrong as advised. 

calcotti

Wibbles said:

Do I detect JEALOUSY in these responses?

??? Jealous about what?

poppy123456

I'm not sure why you would think anyone can be jealous here. We're simply answering the questions you ask.

Wibbles

Alicewillow said:

Yey! Congratulations Wibbles!! ❤️

Was calcotti correct that your next DLA payment is due on 11th May? 

No - 10th May (today) !

calcotti

Wibbles said:

Alicewillow said:

Yey! Congratulations Wibbles!! ❤️

Was calcotti correct that your next DLA payment is due on 11th May? 

No - 10th May (today) !

In that case they must have taken the 28 day period as starting the day after your payment date whereas I read it as stating on the payment date. (Starting the day after the payment date is actually more logical.)