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Lcwra and Council tax benefit

Silvano
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I've not heard anything back from my phone assessment for Lcwra yet (mind you it was only 10 days ago) but I've got a question. If I do get awarded it as part of my Universal credit will it affect my council tax benefit? I live in East Hants and they told me they class Universal credit as income, surely this can't be right. Now Im worried re money as really really struggling as it is on Universal credit without E Hants making me pay Council tax because they'll class Lcwra as income. Does anyone else on here live in East Hants and know if lcwra is classed as income for council tax benefit purposes?
Thank you
I've not heard anything back from my phone assessment for Lcwra yet (mind you it was only 10 days ago) but I've got a question. If I do get awarded it as part of my Universal credit will it affect my council tax benefit? I live in East Hants and they told me they class Universal credit as income, surely this can't be right. Now Im worried re money as really really struggling as it is on Universal credit without E Hants making me pay Council tax because they'll class Lcwra as income. Does anyone else on here live in East Hants and know if lcwra is classed as income for council tax benefit purposes?
Thank you
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Silvano said:If I do get awarded it as part of my Universal credit will it affect my council tax benefit?
See page 35 https://cdn.easthants.gov.uk/public/documents/Council tax support scheme_0.pdf
Therefore, although your UC payable will increase, as the applicable amount will also have increased I would expect there to be no impact on the Car entitlement.Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK. -
Thank you for your answer. What do you mean? Do you mean that I'll have to pay quite a bit of council tax?
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Silvano said:Thank you for your answer. What do you mean? Do you mean that I'll have to pay quite a bit of council tax?
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By no impact do you mean I won't have to pay it if Im on lcwra part of U Credit? In other words I'll still get Council tax benefit?
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Silvano said:By no impact do you mean I won't have to pay it if Im on lcwra part of U Credit? In other words I'll still get Council tax benefit?
No impact means if you're found to have LCWRA then this shouldn't affect your council tax reduction. Therefore, you will still receive CTR.
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help. -
Based on my reading of the CTR scheme for East Hants - but they are always incredibly hard to interpret.Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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I'm sorry to say it completely depends on your local authority's specific rules. I'm in Newcastle, and when I qualified for LCWRA, the Council just ramped up my Council Tax bill to account for the extra LCWRA "income". It didn't make any difference that the extra UC payments were to support my ill health needs. It seems a bit of oversight in the government disability support strategy to permit this kind of local authority discretion - another postcode lottery loophole.
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Same for me @Ragnaresque they include the lcwra when looking at income
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Ragnaresque said:I'm sorry to say it completely depends on your local authority's specific rules. I'm in Newcastle, and when I qualified for LCWRA, the Council just ramped up my Council Tax bill to account for the extra LCWRA "income". It didn't make any difference that the extra UC payments were to support my ill health needs. It seems a bit of oversight in the government disability support strategy to permit this kind of local authority discretion - another postcode lottery loophole.
I have questioned this with them and took advice from citizens advice who agree with my findings, however the council have up to 2 months to respond,
Will let you know the outcome.
My advise would be to look under your councils documents for a list of payments not considered income and check the council tax benefit letter to how they have declared the payment. -
stevie66 said:Ragnaresque said:I'm sorry to say it completely depends on your local authority's specific rules. I'm in Newcastle, and when I qualified for LCWRA, the Council just ramped up my Council Tax bill to account for the extra LCWRA "income". It didn't make any difference that the extra UC payments were to support my ill health needs. It seems a bit of oversight in the government disability support strategy to permit this kind of local authority discretion - another postcode lottery loophole.
I have questioned this with them and took advice from citizens advice who agree with my findings, however the council have up to 2 months to respond,
Will let you know the outcome.
My advise would be to look under your councils documents for a list of payments not considered income and check the council tax benefit letter to how they have declared the payment.I'm still debating whether I have the energy to fight it.
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Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).Life is better in a fishtank 🐟
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JBS2022 said:Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).
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JBS2022 said:Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).
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Ragnaresque said:JBS2022 said:Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).
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Scopehelpine do not have access to the forums. All local Authorities have their own rules for CTR.I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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stevie66 said:Ragnaresque said:JBS2022 said:Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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calcotti said:stevie66 said:Ragnaresque said:JBS2022 said:Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).
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stevie66 said:calcotti said:stevie66 said:Ragnaresque said:JBS2022 said:Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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calcotti said:stevie66 said:calcotti said:stevie66 said:Ragnaresque said:JBS2022 said:Most people have to pay at least some council tax, when I was on benefits and LCWRA ) my hubby gets PIP also) last year I had to pay £250 a year council tax. I now work but I was shocked I had to pay anything being disabled at the time. There is still a misconception that people on benefits don't pay council tax. Everyone I know pays something unless they claim Severe Mental Incapacity ( brain disfunction caused by an organic disease like Alzheimer's or brain damage).
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My local council definately makes ESA claimants pay at least 25% Council Tax unless they claim SMI, the same applies to UC, it's irrelevant whether they are in the Support Group or not. I've not heard of people's CT being increased because of LCWRA, SG or PIP though, if that's the case it's shocking. When I was on Jobseekers allowance back in 2010 I never paid any CT at all, so I was shocked to find out that things had changed.Life is better in a fishtank 🐟
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