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Hi, my name is phoenixxx! I'm not sure if SDP will be protected

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phoenixxx
phoenixxx Community member Posts: 5 Listener
I have just moved into my own place after being homeless for some time. I was awarded PIP earlier this year and now that I have my own address this has triggered Severe Disability Premium. I need to claim Universal Credit to have my rent covered. I am not sure if the SDP will be protected if my claim for UC is from the same day that the SDP was awarded.
Has anyone been in this position and can advise?

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  • Alex_Alumni
    Alex_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,561 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2022
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    Hello and welcome @phoenixxx thanks for joining the community, it's great to hear from you :)

    I've had a look on Citizens Advice, which explains what happens when you claim UC and you also have SDP:

    You can claim Universal Credit even if you were getting, or recently stopped getting, a benefit with a severe disability premium (SDP).

    You might get an extra amount in your Universal Credit - this is called the ‘transitional element’.

    You’ll get the extra amount if you apply for Universal Credit within a month after you stop getting the benefit with the SDP.

    You can’t get the extra amount if you:

    • were only getting the SDP with Housing Benefit

    • move in with a partner who is claiming Universal Credit

    Before 27 January 2021, you couldn’t claim Universal Credit if you were getting, or recently stopped getting, a benefit with an SDP.

    If you applied for Universal Credit before 27 January 2021, talk to an adviser to check what you’re entitled to.


    I'll look into it a bit more for you, in case what I've found doesn't make sense, was the SDP for housing benefit?

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  • phoenixxx
    phoenixxx Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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     No the SDP was not with Housing Benefit, I was getting ESA and was awarded  PIP a few months ago when I had no fixed abode. Very recently I have got my own place where I live on my own.  Nobody gets carer's allowance for me. This triggered the payment of SDP.
    I just want to know if my claim for UC can be made from the same date as the SDP was awarded, which was the date my tenancy began, or if that would affect the SDP.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,208 Disability Gamechanger
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    To claim for help with the rent you will need to claim UC unless you’re living in either supported or temporary housing. 
    A claim for UC will end any Income Related ESA you’re receiving. This would then end your SDP. 
    Any contributions based ESA will continue.
    When you claim UC you will be entitled to the SDP transitional protection in with your maximum UC entitlement.(providing the SDP has been awarded with your ESA)
    If you’re in the Support Group for ESA then you will be entitled to the LCWRA element from the start of your claim. 
    Do be aware that the SDP transitional protection erodes over time so if other elements increase the SDP decreases. 
    If you’re privately renting you will need a tenancy agreement to claim for help with the rent. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • phoenixxx
    phoenixxx Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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    Thank you.  My main query is  whether claiming UC from the same date that my SDP was awarded would mean I would lose the Transitional protection as I was not getting the SDP before that date.
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,981 Disability Gamechanger
    edited July 2022
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    You are welcome @phoenixxx. Thanks for being really clear and clarifying your query. Unfortunately, UC is not an area of my expertise.

    I am hoping someone with more knowledge in this area can respond to you soon. In the meantime, I just wanted to respond to let you know we hear you and are here for you  :)
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    Please note: if I use the online community outside of its hours of administration, I am doing so in a personal capacity only.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,208 Disability Gamechanger
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    phoenixxx said:
    Thank you.  My main query is  whether claiming UC from the same date that my SDP was awarded would mean I would lose the Transitional protection as I was not getting the SDP before that date.

    Providing the SDP is in payment before you claim UC then yes, you'll be entitled to the SDP TP.


    I am hoping someone with more knowledge in this area can respond to you soon.
    I did respond, with advice.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • phoenixxx
    phoenixxx Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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    Thank you for the advice.
     I am still concerned because I have already been awarded the SDP from the date of the start of my tenancy, a week ago. I need to apply for UC to cover my rent but have not yet made the claim.
    If my application for UC is from the exact same date as the date of being awarded SDP would that be seen as my not having SDP before the claim and therefore not eligible for the transitional protection.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,208 Disability Gamechanger
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    phoenixxx said:
    Thank you for the advice.
     I am still concerned because I have already been awarded the SDP from the date of the start of my tenancy, a week ago. I need to apply for UC to cover my rent but have not yet made the claim.
    If my application for UC is from the exact same date as the date of being awarded SDP would that be seen as my not having SDP before the claim and therefore not eligible for the transitional protection.

    UC can only be backdated in the most extreme circumstances, for example if you were in hospital. 
    The date submit your claim for UC will be the start of your claim. As SDP is already in payment you will be entitled to the SDP TP. 
    When you claim UC your ESA will continue for 2 weeks. If any part of it is contributions based, this will continue and be deducted in full from any UC entitlement. 
    Once you’ve claimed your first payment will be 1 month and 6 days later.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • phoenixxx
    phoenixxx Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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    Thanks to all who have helped. Good to know that UC will begin from the date of the claim. I have now been able to speak to Citizens Advice on the phone and got the good advice to ask for a letter confirming my SDP before making the UC claim. I've done that and I'm hoping all will go smoothly now. 



  • Alex_Alumni
    Alex_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,561 Disability Gamechanger
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    I'm glad the community could help @phoenixxx and thanks for updating us all :)

    We're keeping fingers crossed for you, let us know how things go!
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