Hi, my name is alibob65! It's a disgrace to be waiting this long

poppy123456

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

No doubt the DWP with the aid of the NHS and others, specialist etc could gather to do that.
The DWP probably has that information at hand.     

You couldn’t be more wrong here. DWP most certainly do not have anything to hand unless you send the evidence to support your claim. They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence and if they do the chances of them requesting your medical records is even more slim. 

It’s the claimants responsibility to prove they qualify and not DWP. 

You haven't understood what I've posted, they already have data on which conditions could potentially be recognised.  

No they do not! What on earth makes you think this? PIP isn't about a diagnosis. Information regarding any specific medical condition/diagnosis is not helpful in the slightest.

I claimed PIP for my daughter in 2017 before she had any confirmed diagnosis. She was awarded Enhanced for both parts. There's also other members here without a diagnosis that also successfully claim PIP.

Maybe you should do some research because having some understanding certainly helps.

You still do not understand, yes they have, 'since PIP was introduced 4.5 million initial decisions following an assessment have been made up to March 2022'.

I understand perfectly well that you do not understand what PIP is and the criteria involved. You're giving misinformation constantly throughout the thread. It's simply not true that you need a diagnosis to be entitled to PIP.

That doesn't mean those 4.5m people all have a diagnosis. I've reported some of your comments for misinformation.

Cartini

rebel11 said:

Cartini said:

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

No doubt the DWP with the aid of the NHS and others, specialist etc could gather to do that.
The DWP probably has that information at hand.     

You couldn’t be more wrong here. DWP most certainly do not have anything to hand unless you send the evidence to support your claim. They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence and if they do the chances of them requesting your medical records is even more slim. 

It’s the claimants responsibility to prove they qualify and not DWP. 

You haven't understood what I've posted, they already have data on which conditions could potentially be recognised.  

That`s not what you said earlier:

"No doubt the DWP with the aid of the NHS and others, specialist etc could gather to do that.
The DWP probably has that information at hand."

So where is the 'inconsistency'? Then I can 'clarify' for you.  

I`ve already pointed out your inconsistency and you don`t need to "clarify" it for me because you do not know what you are talking about.

I`ll take my advice from people who understand.

You are not willing to listen to people who know more & better than you; because of that, I have no further desire to "converse" with you.

Enjoy your day.

rebel11

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

No doubt the DWP with the aid of the NHS and others, specialist etc could gather to do that.
The DWP probably has that information at hand.     

You couldn’t be more wrong here. DWP most certainly do not have anything to hand unless you send the evidence to support your claim. They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence and if they do the chances of them requesting your medical records is even more slim. 

It’s the claimants responsibility to prove they qualify and not DWP. 

You haven't understood what I've posted, they already have data on which conditions could potentially be recognised.  

No they do not! What on earth makes you think this? PIP isn't about a diagnosis. Information regarding any specific medical condition/diagnosis is not helpful in the slightest.

I claimed PIP for my daughter in 2017 before she had any confirmed diagnosis. She was awarded Enhanced for both parts. There's also other members here without a diagnosis that also successfully claim PIP.

Maybe you should do some research because having some understanding certainly helps.

You still do not understand, yes they have, 'since PIP was introduced 4.5 million initial decisions following an assessment have been made up to March 2022'.

I understand perfectly well that you do not understand what PIP is and the criteria involved. You're giving misinformation constantly throughout the thread. It's simply not true that you need a diagnosis to be entitled to PIP.

That doesn't mean those 4.5m people all have a diagnosis. I've reported some of your comments for misinformation.

Report away, happy for Admin to get in touch with me. I'm talking about 'petition', conditions that could be excluded from assessments, if the Government can be persuaded to go down that direction. That's fairly straightforward to understand.

rebel11

Cartini said:

rebel11 said:

Cartini said:

rebel11 said:

poppy123456 said:

rebel11 said:

No doubt the DWP with the aid of the NHS and others, specialist etc could gather to do that.
The DWP probably has that information at hand.     

You couldn’t be more wrong here. DWP most certainly do not have anything to hand unless you send the evidence to support your claim. They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence and if they do the chances of them requesting your medical records is even more slim. 

It’s the claimants responsibility to prove they qualify and not DWP. 

You haven't understood what I've posted, they already have data on which conditions could potentially be recognised.  

That`s not what you said earlier:

"No doubt the DWP with the aid of the NHS and others, specialist etc could gather to do that.
The DWP probably has that information at hand."

So where is the 'inconsistency'? Then I can 'clarify' for you.  

I`ve already pointed out your inconsistency and you don`t need to "clarify" it for me because you do not know what you are talking about.

I`ll take my advice from people who understand.

You are not willing to listen to people who know more & better than you; because of that, I have no further desire to "converse" with you.

Enjoy your day.

Yep, that's right, 'no inconsistency or clarification needed'.

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• PIP is not awarded based on diagnosis, rather how an individual's condition[s] impacts their ability to complete the PIP activities and descriptors reliably. The absence of an official diagnosis should therefore not be a barrier to anyone claiming PIP.