Upcoming changes to benefits
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having just looked it up pain and fatigue conditions are classed as psychical disabilities. And are protected under the 2010 equality act . Mental health is also covered by the 2010 equality act if it classed as more than a mild condition not the type of condition itself. It depends on how it affects each person. I don’t know how to post it on here so I hope I remembered the information correctly. Maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong please
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100% that’s what I thought
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Heya @stevenh60 and an official welcome to the community. 😊
I'm a few years older, but in a similar position with diagnosis of various things, so I understand the worry.
We do all need to remember that nothing is set in stone, this will just be the green paper, there will then be 12 weeks for charities like Scope to have their say and for changes to be made, or even for plans to be cancelled. So everyone, please try not to panic today. Yes, it's scary, but it's not the end of the road, not by a long way!8 -
Oh wow, happy birthday @Santosha12 I hope you have a splendid day. ❤️
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Thank You very much @Catherine21 I really appreciate that. And yes, some peace of mind would be the best present just not holding my breath, not that I can anyway 😂
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No, absolutely certain it is not. I might have had to fill in some income/expenditure questions but it wasn't a form as such/not so comprehensive it was just working through their online questions.
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Sorry to bother everyone, has the green paper been released yet? I've got some terrifying headlines about Starmer and Wes Streeting being chaos goblins (sorry I know all of us are scared, I'm not trying to make light, I didn't sleep and dark humour is my default setting)
I can't see any indepth stuff about what they are going to do and how. I'm looking on Guardian and BBC news, am I looking in the wrong place, or haven't they posted the green paper yet?
Sending support to everyone
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@luvpink sorry please see my answer above, I didn't put your name
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@Albus_Scope Thank you very much that's very kind!
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Yesterday in a quiet moment at work I read through the Buckland report on autistic employment opportunities and most of what it said resonated with me as an autistic person in work. I recognised all of the problems and challenges and agreed with the solutions proposed. What I don't see in current govt policy, at least in that which has been leaked, is any interest in applying these.
Buckland says many times that overcoming misinformation and stigma around ND conditions is central, meanwhile this past week the Daily Mail has claimed that dyslexia and adhd don't exist and even the Evening Standard claimed everyone is self-diagnosing online.
This is not accidental, these articles are happening to shift public opinion in favour of welfare cuts by occluding real lived experiences of disabled people. Obviously I can only speak for autism and neurodivergence because it's my lived experience but I am sure it is the same for others in other disability groups.
I wrote to the DWP a while back complaining about the govt cuts threatening my job and got a generic letter back today which did not even mention the Buckland Report in all their "we're going to make work better wooh!" commentary.
Removing PIP from anyone will not incentivise a single person into work as PIP is not a work related benefit, but I have read many stories from people for whom losing PIP will cost them their job. This isn't me at present, but in the future it might be depending whether it impacts my travel support or other aspects.
The suggestion of more frequent assessments is also not going to help anyone ND or with a MH diagnosis. More assessments means more triggers means less function means less likely to be able to work. But at the same time they've said permanent disabilities may not need to be reassessed? I know this is all speculation right now but that's such a contradiction given their assault on neurodiversity in general. It's as if they think autism and ADHD will go away o.O.
And there are several MH diagnoses which are also permanent, even if some others are not.
I reflected this morning that at no point in my whole life do I feel like I live in a democracy. Everyone else has to speak for me, and people like me. When we try to speak, we're shut down or ignored. Sad, isn't it?2 -
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thank you that’s reassuring. Can you give us a run down of the procedure and times please ? I know it’s a green paper and I think it has to go to a white paper etc but how long does it take before it’s in law and if it’s challenged in court will that delay it and for how long . Obviously there’s no definite timeframe but a rough idea would be good. Are we talking a few months ? A couple of years ?
Also I’ve read they could possibly stop pip for low level disability. Is that invisible conditions such as fibromyalgia ME? I’ve researched online and the equality 2010 act includes pain and fatigue conditions as it does mental health that isn’t classed as mild . Unless they intend to change that act does it mean as long as our conditions whatever they may be will be covered as long as they aren’t mild ?
sorry for long post but I think it’s important to know what they can do legally as opposed to what they’d like to do .
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there’s no news yet . I think about 12.30
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Thank you and thank you to all the other mods aswell it’s been a very horrible scary time for us and this forum is one beacon of light in the darkness
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happy birthday 🎁. What a day to have a birthday on . Let’s hope you and all of us get some good news today.
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Thank you. God the waiting is awful. At least I'm not being an idiot and looking in the wrong place. Thanks again.
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Totally agree with you. I'm coming on 64, in theory I should have retired at 60 (as a women, starting full time (39 how) work at 15 in1977). It was pushed up to 65 by 2018, 66 by 2020 now 67 by next year. What's the point of increasing state pension age especially if you are on unemployed Universal Credit (stand alone, £393.00 per month, that's all I get, no earnings or savings or sickness/disability benefits). I have long term health issues even though I've worked l, volunteered and/or job searched.s So even if I did work part time, I wouldn't be paying any tax so what's the governmental point? Just put retirement age back. Let us collect our state pension/pension credits and we will no longer be claimants because state or pension credit is not a benefit it's just given that name. It's not difficult to figure that out!
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All this’we are the worst nation in Europe’ is ****. Look at Spanish/ Greek unemployment rates? Look at the Netherlands disability rates until recently.. We have no hospital beds, psychiatrists, care in the community.. that’s why the bill is up. Not malingering or fraud. Fix the system don’t demonise the sick. I’m waiting for GP call this morning.. I’ve been waiting for a week.. it’s not rocket science Reeves?
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I can relate to that feeling for sure.
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Feel a nervous wreak on edge
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