Upcoming changes to benefits
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thank you that’s reassuring. Can you give us a run down of the procedure and times please ? I know it’s a green paper and I think it has to go to a white paper etc but how long does it take before it’s in law and if it’s challenged in court will that delay it and for how long . Obviously there’s no definite timeframe but a rough idea would be good. Are we talking a few months ? A couple of years ?
Also I’ve read they could possibly stop pip for low level disability. Is that invisible conditions such as fibromyalgia ME? I’ve researched online and the equality 2010 act includes pain and fatigue conditions as it does mental health that isn’t classed as mild . Unless they intend to change that act does it mean as long as our conditions whatever they may be will be covered as long as they aren’t mild ?
sorry for long post but I think it’s important to know what they can do legally as opposed to what they’d like to do .
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there’s no news yet . I think about 12.30
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Thanks for info I only know of parts of Europe
so it's refreshing to know about Australia also treating their citizens with dignity good quality care and no demonising or constant assessment pressures.
When I used to go abroad I would often not want to come back home It would be very therapeutic , relaxed and strong sense of community people look out for eachother.
My nan was from Republic of Ireland and she said growing up if anyone was unwell the neighbours and everyone would come round buying shopping, cooking and all help out ☺
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Thank you and thank you to all the other mods aswell it’s been a very horrible scary time for us and this forum is one beacon of light in the darkness
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happy birthday 🎁. What a day to have a birthday on . Let’s hope you and all of us get some good news today.
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Thank you. God the waiting is awful. At least I'm not being an idiot and looking in the wrong place. Thanks again.
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Totally agree with you. I'm coming on 64, in theory I should have retired at 60 (as a women, starting full time (39 how) work at 15 in1977). It was pushed up to 65 by 2018, 66 by 2020 now 67 by next year. What's the point of increasing state pension age especially if you are on unemployed Universal Credit (stand alone, £393.00 per month, that's all I get, no earnings or savings or sickness/disability benefits). I have long term health issues even though I've worked l, volunteered and/or job searched.s So even if I did work part time, I wouldn't be paying any tax so what's the governmental point? Just put retirement age back. Let us collect our state pension/pension credits and we will no longer be claimants because state or pension credit is not a benefit it's just given that name. It's not difficult to figure that out!
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All this’we are the worst nation in Europe’ is ****. Look at Spanish/ Greek unemployment rates? Look at the Netherlands disability rates until recently.. We have no hospital beds, psychiatrists, care in the community.. that’s why the bill is up. Not malingering or fraud. Fix the system don’t demonise the sick. I’m waiting for GP call this morning.. I’ve been waiting for a week.. it’s not rocket science Reeves?
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I can relate to that feeling for sure.
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Feel a nervous wreak on edge
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Thank you I will look it up.
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@secretsquirrel1 thank you so much! Gosh I feel a fraud it's not until tomorrow. I've opened my 2 card's from my lovely friends in London and Essex cos I'm naughty like that, never wait till the day ha ha.
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I do hope they can help you if you should need it, they were very caring in their approach.
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This is such a kind and uplifting message! It’s great to see a community that supports one another, especially during difficult times. Small steps truly do make a difference, thank you for sharing this reminder!
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as a child I used to open Christmas presents then wrap them back up so no one knew 😂
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Happy Birthday @Santosha12 ! I hope it's a day to remember... in the right way. Blessings from @Zipz 🎂 🕯
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No problem at all @secretsquirrel1 it's good to ask questions. Questions lead to answers, which leads to peace of mind. 😊
Regarding the process, the green paper will be consulted for 12 weeks.Then it'll go to the white paper, which is usually the statement of policy and proposals, (sometimes in draft form,) which will then get more feedback from outside sources and debated in parliament. So again, not quick!
After that will be the "First reading" which is a formal introduction to parliament and nothing is really done. The bill is then printed and given a number in the public bill series. So it's mostly paperwork and formalising.
Then the "Second Reading" this is the first time a bill can be defeated, but it's not often that happens tbh. The date for the Second Reading is set by the offices of the Chief Whip and the Leader of the House. This usually lasts at least two weekends to be allowed between publication of the Bill and Second Reading, except in emergency situations. This reading is to debate the broader policies in the bill, not the fine print and a chance for the opposition to object or ask for reasoned amendments and a chance to vote against said bill.
After that, it's onto the Committee stage. This is where they go through the bill with a fine toothed comb. This is usually carried out by a specially-appointed Public Bill Committee of around 17 MPs, representative of party strength in the Commons. At least one Minister from the Government department in charge of the Bill will be on the Committee, along with a front-bench spokesman from each of the opposition parties represented. This usually takes about 2-3 weeks, but for something this complex, I'd say a month perhaps?
Onto the Report stage, where things can be reversed or amended after the committee stage.
Then it's the Third Reading. To discuss changes etc and to vote on it again.Now it's off to The House of Lords. Which is known as the "ping pong" stage, as the bill will be passed back and forth between the commons and the HoL with amendments etc.
THEN when OK'd by both houses, it's onto Royal assent, where it will become law.
The final stage is of course the roll out of the new laws.
So over all, this can take a very long time to even get to the law stage maybe a year or more and a lot can happen in that time. So just stay strong and keep the faith! 😁8 -
Like others not slept all night.
then its like Kendall herself decided on an extra special gift.
they finally got back to my brother in regards to ESA/UC Migration and the complex setup,
this is 100% the truth, 1st him hearing me still waiting would not trigger COC then the lady went to check yes it would, FOUR Team leaders later "sorry we have to give you an extension
we have no idea, DO NOT PROCEED WITH UC MIGRATION. Because the setup for me and my brother was created over 20 years ago the "system" doesnt not have an answer to it
they have had other siblings in the same situation but normally the Full HB is paid to one not split. The team leader openly told my brother they are buckling under the pressure the way this works, HMRC/local HB/UC work together to migrate someone over.
when there's a complex issue its taking 7 -10 days to hear back from one of these depts
They dare go on TV laughing and acting so smug. No Reeves decided the 2029 final date was not acceptable to just herding everyone over via migration is working so well.
Add into the mix whatever they have planned next. Dear Lord.
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Hi and a very warm welcome to the community.
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Finally got a prescription sorted which I've been trying to get done since the 7th. The pharmacist had to ring me personally to check what it was (despite it being a repeat of one I've had for a decade).
If even jobs such as this take so long, it's no wonder the system is in the state it is. Nothing whatsoever to do with 'scroungers'.
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