Upcoming changes to benefits
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there something I’m confused about is there got to be a reassessment for people who are or ready on pip
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but how will they determine who’s lifelong ? I have invisible conditions if I’m forced to a face to face I have no chance . And getting the pip points to 4 points for a question isn’t easy as they can down grade you . Though it’s good that it will now be recorded. I think this will lead to more appeals as it means , if I’m correct, no matter how many points you get if you lack that 4 you don’t get award . So ppl will have to appeal even with full points if they don’t get a 4
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Sorry for sounding stupid, km not understanding it? Km on LCWRA and PIP so is likely I'm losing everything? When will this take place?
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See highlighted in bold below, will these changes come in at award review stage rather than being re-assessed mid award?
Focussing PIP more on those with higher needs
137. PIP will remain an important, non-means tested benefit for disabled people and people with health conditions – regardless of whether they are in or out of work. However, the number of people receiving PIP is rising significantly and is becoming unaffordable. In 2024 to 2025, there were 3 million working-age people in receipt of PIP at a cost of £21.8 billion. By 2029/2030, the working-age PIP caseload is forecast to be 4.2 million people, at a cost of £34.1 billion per year.[footnote 83] The rate of increases in claims and expenditure is not sustainable and has outstripped the growth in disability prevalence.
138. Changes are needed that will control the spend on the welfare bill, while continuing to support those people with higher needs relating to their long-term health condition or disability. As described above, we will introduce a new eligibility requirement to ensure that only those who score a minimum of 4 points in at least one daily living activity will be eligible for the daily living component of PIP. This requirement will need to be met in addition to the existing PIP eligibility criteria.
139. This means that people who have lower needs only in the daily living activities (scoring 3 or less for each activity) will no longer be eligible for the daily living component of PIP. Meanwhile, people with a higher level of functional need in at least one activity – for example, people who are unable to complete activities at all, or who require more help from others to complete them – will still receive PIP.
140. We will introduce this change through primary legislation. It will apply to new claims and for existing people who claim, future eligibility will be decided at their next award review. This change means that people could lose entitlement to the daily living element of PIP and potentially other entitlements linked to this award.
141. We are mindful of the impact this change could have on people and so want to consider how we can best support those affected. This includes options for transitional protection for those who are no longer eligible for PIP and the entitlements linked to their award. In addition, we also want to consider how to support those with lower needs in a large number of PIP activities, as part of these changes. We are consulting on whether those who lose entitlement need any support and what this support could look like (see consultation question 2).
142. As stated in Annex B, the impact and interactions of any changes to the PIP gateway will need to be fully considered with the Devolved Governments. This will be particularly important in Scotland as PIP is devolved and has been replaced by Adult Disability Payment.
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What if you get the mobility side and lcwra?
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She was speaking so fast and came across as aggressive.
I'm afraid she lost me on a lot of it.
I'm listening to the analysis on gb news.
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The green paper is online now
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What about the point where you go from Standard PIP to Enhanced PIP - Anything said about that yet ?
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Which esa is combined with jsa and what does it mean for us
Pip points is that for us who already on it, or for them getting it. When will go through
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Good question
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future eligibility will be decided at their next award review
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They haven't said if for new claimants or excisting I just want out from this
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They didn't mention if foe excisting or new claims
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Iam in the ESA contributory support group and not due an ward review for 8 years, what will happen to that?
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I get LCWRA but got rejected for PIP first try waiting for MR to come back then I’ll be taking it to tribunal so hoping this will be watered down and challenged before then especially if they’re tightening criteria for pip it isn’t fair but seeing as it’s 3 years away I’ll worry about it then.
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Sorry for another post.
I've also asked it (AI) to spell out what this will mean specifically for people in the LCWRA (support) group and receive both UC/ESA and PIP as I think that's quite a lot of us here that can't work.
This is what the AI summerised it will mean for our group (again if I'm wrong to post this I'm sorry and I'll delete) :
Short-Term (Next 1-2 Years)
- No immediate changes to your payment amounts
- WCA reassessments restarting - if you haven't had a reassessment since before COVID, you might be called for one
- Face-to-face assessments more likely - currently only 7% of assessments are face-to-face, but the government plans to increase this
- PIP assessments may be recorded as standard
Medium-Term (2026-2027)
- Your LCWRA payment will be protected - the government has guaranteed that existing LCWRA claimants won't see their UC health element reduced
- Your UC standard allowance will increase (by about £7 per week)
- Your LCWRA payment will be frozen until 2029/30 (won't increase with inflation)
- You will need to have periodic conversations about work and support, though you won't be required to search for jobs
- If you have a "severe, life-long condition with no prospect of improvement" you may be exempted from future reassessments entirely
For Your PIP
- If you score at least 4 points in at least one daily living activity (not just adding up smaller points across activities), your PIP should continue
- If you don't score 4+ points in any single activity, you could lose the daily living component when reassessed
Longer-Term (2028-2029)
- The WCA will be scrapped - you'll only need a PIP assessment, not separate assessments for PIP and UC/ESA
- Your UC health element entitlement will be based on your PIP award - if you qualify for PIP daily living, you'll qualify for the UC health element
Key Assurances in the Proposals
- Working won't trigger a reassessment - this will be enshrined in law
- If you have a severe, life-long condition, you may never need to be reassessed again
- If you try work and it doesn't work out, you should be able to return to your previous benefit level
Reality Check
These are proposals in a Green Paper, not confirmed changes. After the consultation period, some may be modified or abandoned. The most significant changes like scrapping the WCA aren't planned until 2028/29, and a general election or other factors could change these plans before they're implemented.
The most immediate concern would be whether you qualify under the new PIP 4-point rule when you're next reassessed. If you already score at least 4 points in at least one daily living activity (rather than adding up smaller points across different activities), this shouldn't affect your eligibility.
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future eligibility will be decided at their next award review
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Hi all.
New discussion created with a link to the green paper document.
The Green Paper document link is here! — Scope | Online Community
We're looking to move away from this discussion now. Please use this new discussion to have your say.
Best wishes,
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so surely the amount of pip claimants will rise ?
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