The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Benefits and Work's news is calling the Green Paper bogus.
"The DWP has launched an entirely bogus consultation on changes to personal independence payment (PIP) and universal credit (UC) by refusing to consult on almost everything that matters most to claimants."
"Silencing voices
The Green paper consultation is so dishonest that we feel unable to recommend that people take part in the way we normally would, though we also know that the DWP may argue that lack of response means that most people do not object to the changes.
In the Green paper, the DWP claim that “We are committed to putting the views and voices of disabled people and people with health conditions at the heart of everything we do.”
In fact, this bogus consultation is entirely about silencing the voices of disabled people and people with health conditions.
The reality is that the DWP under Labour is proving to be even more dishonest and devious than it was under the Tories."
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Gazmo stay with us darling. I'm sure I speak for us all when I say we care very much about you, we care about each other in this Wonderful scope community.
On another note, I think you will be fine at reassessment....your conditions are very serious and obviously have a very severe impact on your day to day life.
Look at what you've been through, and here you are still fighting , don't give up because of the cruel fckers trying to kick us down even further.
Hugs to you sweetheart .
I admire your strength...really I do. Xxxxx
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I am in a similar postion to you as now over 70 years and moved to PIP from DLA. I have enhanced Daily Living as got 12 points but no 4 in any one discription. I'm light touch as well but have got much worse since I first got PIP. I 'think' once you are up for a review only then can you tell them how bad you have got (same as me) Being disabled you seem to age quicker and muscle mass decreases quicker. I so hope we all get answers soon enough as I lay awake wondering how will cope without the extra money from PIP. 😧 Labour seem determined to see off the oldies one way or anther.
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I wonder what this means about 'new people claiming'. They're really needs to be more clarification on this. However I have my suspicions that all new/existing claimants will affected either now or down the line. I haven't filled in the response to the green paper yet. However I did email two MP's today. One of them who stood up for us today in parliament (Colum Eastwood).
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If that's true; that's technically DWP stating they don't trust people's families
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Where did you see this ?
Every minute it's getting worse.....I'm struggling with all this today
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yes, you are spot on. Make sure you record any further difficulties you are having and any evidence to support those. PIP assure me that nothing will change while my award is ongoing. Like you, when the soft touch review becomes due ( in my case Dec 2027) could be the right time to challenge, on the other hand they may just keep you as you are (which I would be happy with).
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I have the 4 points and 16 points in total. 10 year award, enhanced / enhanced. It seems like people in this category will be left alone and won't have to be reassessed
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in the comments on dynamic duo . I can’t confirm it’s true which is why I asked scope for clarification. But they haven’t changed the pip form criteria and of course there’s carers allowance. So hopefully it’s not true . If it were almost no one would get it as who has a live in professional carer.
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I don’t think it would mean that but just a loop hole . How many have a live in professional carer . Hopefully it’s not true but we need scope to clarify this .
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Why didn't you reason that out before posting?
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Then what else could it mean?
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Why on earth would it be an issue
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Yeah I read that.
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I don’t think that can be the case as people’s family often claim carer’s allowance to look after the person on PIP. As far as I’m aware you just have to show that you need the help. Whether you get it and who from doesn’t matter
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You're welcome. The more I'm on the forum etc the more my fury at Labour grows to cold, hard stuff-them mentality. I voted for them. I believed no one could be worse than Tories. Labour isn't my natural political home but it's them or Tories were I live. I'm done with them - so are a lot of people I know, and it's not just disabilities but that's a large factor. I'm hearing people who have friends and family who are disabled and are incesed by this and genuinely furious and disgusted. I fully believe Starmmer and co will try to ram this through but I think they are underestimating how bad this will be for them, how much people will fight. Well, that's my hope.
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The consultation questions under the green paper are lamentable
They are not asking the correct questions, most of them almost feel like
"Write what you like but we are correct"
The last 3 questions feel duplicates,
I just kept saying
1, accept some people will never work instead of wasting huge sums of money on that
focus on the people who only need NHS treatment/OPS to return to work
2. Respect the clinical evidence provided, now its more focused on the opinions of companies paid millions to axe benefits for people only for them to undergo the trauma of appeals and get the money back.
3, Stop pretending this is "reform" its making savings and sadly now disabled people are on this endless cycle of misery when a new party comes into power within months "lets target the disabled" this has to end and written into law if someone is deemed unfit for work they are not going to get better then accept it.
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There's a very interesting youtuber - garys economics, he's a young, former trader and has two philosphies 1) wealth inequality is at the heart of everything - it's driving the far right rise, the billionaire class, the rage people have, the rising 'isms' etc. That unless we tackle that no goverment of any type or affiliation will sort things out 2) it's no longer about voters who are labour v tories, red vs blue - the only dividing line should be the people who support a wealth tax on billionaires (he's very specific that it's to tax them on their assests not their income/earnings) verses people/govt that don't and he said what they've done - very, very succesfully is get people - red, blue, whatever political stripe, north, south, black, white, male, female etc that we fight amoung ourselves and that keeps the uber rich safe while they make more and more and more profits off us. It's basically his theory. It's interesting.
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I don’t know if it’s even true hence I’ve left a comment for scope to answer . It’s simply something I’ve just read .
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Have the reassessments for LCWRA started already, or will it be April 2026?
This is what I'm most worried about, I wont be able to cope with going through another reassessment, and it feels like there's a decent chance I'll be classed as fit for work or put into LCW.
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