The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 98 Empowering

    For what it's worth, I was reading CAB's website about their views on the Green Paper and their advisers seem to be vehemently against it. A lot of organisations, including here, in support of disabled people should hopefully be able to get our MPs to listen. I'm trying to write a letter to my local MP about it.

  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Online Community Member Posts: 83 Empowering

    Basically the Tories did the same,

    that amount stays frozen so no new uplifts, in real terms its a cut because as the cost of living increases this money doesn't. The Tories loved freezing the Benefits it saved them billions and its part of the reason the rise in foodbanks happened, they know the situation people who rely on Benefits rarely can save or have savings so that money goes straight back into the economy. VAT is a tax is brings in around 360 million a year, even Children buying a console game pay TAX, this narrative people on Benefits "pay nothing" is just total BS.

    If one more "presenter" says Mobility cars are "free" yes people get free fuel for the 3 years

    Brexit has seen this country become a deeply bitter place.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 620 Trailblazing

    I think if the UN take them to court and win if will look very bad for Starmer as human rights lawyer. He may not want to be PM for longer than one term and instead aim higher. Going against the UN and ECHR isn’t a good look especially from a lawyer who believes in them . He has no interest in lowering immigration and so regardless of his treatment to the sick disabled elderly he won’t win again IMO.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 115 Empowering

    It's far from being reasonable. Your reasonability is only focusing on the engagement with work coaches. The tough thing is how to pass the assessment to get the health element.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 250 Empowering
    edited March 19

    I receive enhanced on both aspects; but should have scored at least a 6-8 on the same Q you say you would score an 8- yet I received 0 lmaoβ€¦πŸ˜‚

    All this…despite my providing reams of unprecedented corroborating evidence from my special Nurse: Clinical Psychologist and the entire team, where I was diagnosed!

    I dont mention this not to concern you, but i just checked my award papers today for the first time in 3 yrs and was re-shocked at reading that part again lol…but like so many here, i didnt kick up a fuss as i was awarded enhanced overall.

    For my next renewal I will be raising these concerns, as i did mention in my original claim for them to contact all respective parties, as they can confirm my exact symptoms..

    It seems that PIP totally ignored this partπŸ€”

    You should be fine, but dont take it for granted like i did; that they will see the obvious and agreeπŸ‘

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 620 Trailblazing

    you must record any future assessments. Do not rely on them recording as they say at the last minute they can’t ( happened to me) . Mine also ignored the 4? Point questions and asked me about the 2, point questions. Again that’s happened to me.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 620 Trailblazing

    imagine waking up to him . He makes my skin crawl

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 147 Empowering

    hi

    New in here, gone through the green paper and obviously it’s atrocious.

    One thing I’d say that hasn’t got much or no attention is paragraph 53 and 54 regarding the new Insurance Employment.

    It is very badly written, and I believe it’s on purpose.

    Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.


    this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.

    So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 620 Trailblazing

    Charlie Anderson gives a run down of the green paper regarding PIP ( only pip) . She’s also going to be doing future videos on this . Love her or hate her she seems quite knowledgeable so could be of help

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 147 Empowering

    hi

    New in here, gone through the green paper and obviously it’s atrocious.

    One thing I’d say that hasn’t got much or no attention is paragraph 53 and 54 regarding the new Insurance Employment.

    It is very badly written, and I believe it’s on purpose.

    Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.

    this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.

    So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.

  • neil12345
    neil12345 Online Community Member Posts: 56 Connected

    Can anyone answer this . I'm on lcwra will it be reviewed before the changes ? Also what month and year will this end ? Next question when the pip new changes start year and month

  • Hopeless
    Hopeless Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 680 Empowering
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,885 Pioneering

    @Danny123 Appoy for PIP. Write up your answers and gather all medical evidence in advance. Your Mum could write a letter of support. You probably would score 8 for social interaction but maybe not more that 2 for cooking unless you're not safe or really cannot venture as far as the kitchen. I imagine you could score highly in the first mobility question to do with planning and following journeys. Good luck.

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Online Community Member Posts: 76 Empowering

    ....now I can't unthink that!!!! πŸ€’πŸ€’πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

  • SharonE16
    SharonE16 Online Community Member Posts: 4 Listener

    It’s so hard not to worry. I’m 60 with fibromyalgia (diagnosed many years ago), arthritis in lower back and suffer with anxiety and depression. I do get pip but have never received 4 points for any 1 descriptor. The thought of losing pip and then lcwra is making me ill. I honestly do not know how I will manage. It feels like we are being punished for having disabilities.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 130 Empowering

    I'd rather wake up next to Jacob Rees-Mogg, and that's really saying something (not really of course, he's a tory).

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 620 Trailblazing
  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 250 Empowering

    Have you read -Tragedy and HopeBook by Carroll Quigley

    Also Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi- Practical Idealism (the Kalergi Plan for Europe)

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 115 Empowering

    No matter how much I've been trying since yesterday, for me, it's even impossible not to worry and take this evil off my brain.

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