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  • [Deleted User]
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  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Online Community Member Posts: 111 Empowering

    Thank you so much,

    Tbh we died that day, We are a tiny family everyone else is gone.

    We get by but knowing Dad should still be alive today he really did have a solution for everything and nothing phased him at all. Totally the watchdogs for health are utterly useless.

    The Coroner has been terrible I begged them NOT to send me emails anymore as it was always bad news, I was on hour 8 of the Chemotherapy email arrived "Hello its ** from Coroners office just to let you know the Police will be taking written statements from members of staff on duty" it was written so matter of fact.

    I got so upset my stats started to go haywire and they stopped the infusion I showed the day care unit staff the email and they were stunned something like that was even sent in an email.

    This past week the worry has 100% made me worst, this is what Labour are not understanding at least with the Tories they boasted about welfare cuts.

    this is the speech Blair gave. He 100% mentioned welfare reform but timestamped the comments on civil service reduction for AI. This was 8 months ago the GE was 8 months ago

    He's running the show

    https://youtu.be/xey-jt0sQ6k?t=500

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 79 Empowering

    I’m sorry your Dad died like that, my parents have both passed and you just want it to be peaceful and as easy as possible? I understand your fight for that.

    Yes I noticed the AI comments were coming thick and fast… the systems are not even up and running yet? There’s no AI in place to cope with shortfall of civil servants!

    It’s like a group of people are sitting in a cabal coming up with imaginary solutions whilst the reality is completely different. That group of people is Pat McFadden/ Morgan Mc Sweeny and possibly Mandelson. The former two were Mandelson’s ‘creatures’ in previous administrations. So it’s like.. ‘let’s get all the disabled off benefits and working’… we’ll steal votes back from Reform by being tough?’ Without ever facing the reality that there are NO JOBS available en masse for sick folk.

  • [Deleted User]
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  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Online Community Member Posts: 111 Empowering

    Again thank you so much,

    When Dad was alive he actually voted for Starmer and Rayner, but within weeks he said

    "this guy is not the right person, he lied to get the job" He then hoped Rayner being known for standing her ground would make sure he kept to his word.

    I found the other interview he gave, nothing about the policies yet now all these welfare cuts are something he Truly believes in.

    Pat Mc Fadden said he actually stated "Sue Gray is not going anywhere" and we know what happened there. Taking those difficult decisions means sharing with people what they are before they trust you, this is something Starmer just cant grasp.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    There's a definite pattern emerging, isn't there.

    Winter fuel payment.

    Two-child cap.

    Disability benefits.

    They seem to hate anyone who is not able to service their/their chums' (or in the case of Kendall her partner's) greed.

    Won't be long until they are actually referring to us as 'useless eaters' in public - I suspect they already do so in private.

  • A_Z1961
    A_Z1961 Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    @jul1aorways "I don't want to wish my life away but the best thing about pension age will actually be, being (mostly) left alone by the government. It's even more important than the situation with the money."

    This is exactly how I feel. Like you I have had another 7 years added to my pension age. I'm now 64 with long-term and additional health issues, although I have just started down the WCA journey. After nearly 50 years working seeing that retirement age approaching is so important to our mental and physical health. Extending the goal (or that should be jail) posts is cruelty on top of everything else we have to endure. At this stage we just want to be left alone.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 706 Championing

    @A_Z1961 , Thank you, and I’m sorry to hear about your situation. You raise an important point about the challenges of accessing the benefits system and the rising state pension age, which leave many over 60 with no choice but to remain in employment despite health issues. Some of the issues was even highlighted in a recent Centre for Aging Better blog: “ The UK is headed in the wrong direction for older workers with ill-health

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    @Summerlove she's a shape-shifter. Here she is claiming to be the anti-austerity candidate

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Online Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    It’s driving me mad how every time one of these horrible frontbenchers is asked about the harm this is going to do, even when the question doesn’t relate whatsoever to work, they only have one response…

    ”Work will set you free!”

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    Whoops, posted too soon.

    On another track, I've seen the new PIP test (on the B&W site).

    It's been bugging me but I couldn't work out why (brain fog due to off-the-scale anxiety).

    I've realised the test/points in and of themselves don't amount to a hill of beans.

    The real issue is the rulebook issued to assessors in terms of how to allocate points.

    I'd imagine that is being (or has been) rewritten to disqualify even more applicants.

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  • soldcb
    soldcb Online Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor

    Do you mean she saw your bank statements? Where does it say they can do that?

    Did they explain why?

  • soldcb
    soldcb Online Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor

    But we don’t yet know when they will start this or whether it will be for new claimants only or if some may stay in the CB Support Group old style ESA, or if it will be dependent on age etc. When there are changes like this there’s usually some protections for those who have been in receipt of its predecessor (I know there’s no guarantee they’ll do that this time) like the migration from Incapacity Benefit to the old ESA.
    Despite the fact there’s a New style ESA I haven’t been asked to migrate onto it. So I think we need to wait and see, but I agree with others that this aspect has hardly warranted much discussion and they might be hoping to get it in under the radar with all the hype about PIP changes.

    Of course the other thing Kendall didn’t mention is the fact they’ll also save a lot on Carers Allowance if they are planning to decrease the numbers qualifying for PIP care component. If you lose PIP care component you’ll also presumably lose CA.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    I agree some employees do not comply with the rulebook.

    My point was, I suppose, issues/restraints that currently exist and lead to successful MRs/tribunals may no longer exist when the rulebook for employees is rewritten.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,085 Championing

    I am so very sorry for the traumatic loss of your dad, that's shocking and utterly heartbreaking. Lost my dad 25 years ago today, it all comes back to me like it was yesterday, often does. Take care of yourself and sending 🫂.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,155 Championing

    I'm not sure hyperbole helps anyone. Do they care more for the biggest voting blocks? Of course; but to imply it's personal is just nonsense, quite frankly.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,085 Championing

    If and when the changes come in, for those of us on UC and LCWRA, if the LCWRA gets stopped in Nov 28, doesn't that mean our UC increases by that amount (ie my UC was something like 900 but got 416 deducted off it as LCWRA is paid separately.

    I don't know if this makes sense, it does to me but might not be explaining it well.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 303 Empowering

    The awful thing is Catherine, I voted Labour all my life, all my family did because of our roots, our history. Now I will never vote for them again and that is so sad. I am getting an email together explaining who my Grandad was and what he stood for and send it to my MP, I doubt it will have any effect but maybe it might give her just a tiny twinge of guilt, wont hold my breath though 😊

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