The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Also people will lose their carers allowance if they look after someone who doesn't get those 4 points and this evil government have already worked that one out.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,871 Pioneering

    This was supposed to be the case. My paper assessment was handled by a neurology CNS. When I completed my form, i stated that I took it for granted that I would be assessed by a HCP was experience and expertise in the field. This indicated that I'd fight on and win if the assessment went against me.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,871 Pioneering

    You're so right. I've long been convinced that the shift from DLA to PIP served as an advertisement and is at least in part responsible for the rise in claimants.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 97 Empowering

    This is a point that the damn government and many people are not thinking of. Many people, particularly single mothers, who are working part time as carers would lose their jobs once the sick and disabled people lose their award; hence more unemployed people.

  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Empowering
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,639 Championing

    most abled British people simply don't want to do bricklaying and similar manual jobs. The pay is ****, they offer minimal career progression. Moreover, manual labour jobs will wreck people's bodies and force an early retirement (and given governments keep raising the retirement age, effectively forces people into destitution in their middle age).

    The only way ableds, especially British people, will take up apprenticeships like bricklaying is through abuse and coercion.

    Stellar, brickies earn a small fortune!!

    I don't understand what's so special about British people nor what's wrong with learning a trade? I did and I still have great muscles thank you 💪

    I wish I'd been encouraged to take up an apprenticeship straight from school. I wish I hadn't listened to this sort of attitude from my parents.

    😖

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 97 Empowering

    It's insane to all of a sudden cut benefits to someone who has been ill for years and who has been surviving on LCWRA and expect them to go get a job and be working! Bang!


    This must be a perfect example of intentional indifference and pure cruelty.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,720 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    when we first went over to pip I had all Drs letters including my specialist. Zero points . Plus they tend to downgrade 4 point questions to 2 points . It doesn’t help that I gave invisible conditions ME and fibromyalgia. I even submitted a letter from GP stating my prognosis is not good . Assessor just ignored all letters

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    I think I remember him saying he was working in fraud , he knows a lot about pip

  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 97 Empowering

    I've been having a down day with the benefits cuts today. It's just progressively making me feel so helpless. I've emailed my MP (who is thankfully supportive) and waiting for her response. She did email me a few days ago unprompted expressing her support. I've also written to some articles about it. Just feel this impending doom

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,720 Championing

    God unbearable I just want to lie in bed and never get up sorry

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,871 Pioneering

    Sadly, the social model of disability, often propounded by disabled people and disability charities, enables this political outlook. Disabled people and charities have blamed employers and infrastructure, etc for not working. Thus, governments can focus on "breaking down barriers". But for the most disabled it is the condition itself that is a unremoveable barrier to work.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,871 Pioneering

    Don't apologise. Take as much rest as you need.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 97 Empowering

    I've been feeling down and extremely worried every single day since the terror landed in last Tuesday.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 693 Empowering

    Sending 🫂 to you Catherine, feeling very similar and 💔 worrying about my dogs. Take care of yourself x

  • Facts
    Facts Online Community Member Posts: 1 Listener

    It is interesting that the governments own claims for Disability Assistance have tripled in 3 years from £175k in 20/21 to £510k in 23/24, an increase of 191%.
    https://www.theipsa.org.uk/other-payment-data (then select Disability Assistance from the options.)

    Will this government spending be subject to the same level of scrutiny as people applying for PIP and other disability assistance?

    +++++++++

    Surely a fairer place to start saving money would be to stop running the House of Commons Catering Services at a loss of £7m a year.

    Why is it that MPs should only pay £9 for a roast dinner when the average price for a London pub Roast is now £18-£20 - most people on disability would avoid spending the £9 on 1 persons meal.

    The House of Commons vending machines also make a loss of nearly £100k a year.

    https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/freedom-of-information/information-we-already-publish/house-of-commons-publication-scheme/catering-services/house-of-commons-cost-of-catering/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJM8QNleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHWvLL8LsXlKrr85huzM6ij3n3QJzPeQxwnVnSPIX3IvmJMinGKmeDjsvfw_aem_tVcSfvQoZa6VPwcpYHCdjQ

    Based on the above figures it would seem that MPs think it is OK for them to be subsidized but that those in society who are struggling should be penalised for needing some help.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,720 Championing

    And you our furbabies will always be ok we would always make sure of that big hugs and big hugs to doggies x

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