Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

@noonebelieves thank you, I saw afterwards that someone had already helpfully posted the link to it so I was a bit 'late to the party' with that!

I saw your other detailed post re your own (health) situation and couldn't reply I'm sorry but I wanted to and could not for the life of me find it this morning. I am so very sorry though for everything you are going through it is quite shocking, very saddening and I am thinking of you with more empathy, it literally brought tears to my eyes and that such suffering can be borne yet you still give so much kind generosity and well thought help to everyone here.

I am not very good with pain (mard basically and phobic of injections) and this week was difficult. I stood up for c 8 hrs in total to write a complaint letter 6 pages so far but I'm leaving it to reconsider whether it's in my interest really to send it but I could barely walk because of standing and calves are still very painful. I'll look for your other post shortly so I don't go off topic here which I already have!

I hope that you have some days that are more bearable and that today is one of them. Take very good care ☺️

more news regarding Liebour:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14573305/amp/Taxpayers-funded-training-ministers-welfare-cuts.html

Has anyone heard anything about what charities and organisations are doing? Seems to have gone bit quiet especially on the wca front.

The Equalities act 2010 is PRIMARY legislation which means that it has to go through both houses before any changes can be made to it !

as far as I know as there is no mention in the green paper regarding any changes to income based esa

All income based esa is due to migrate to UC by end of 2025 though

@Catherine21 I thought that too about stopping MR and then Tribunals - it came to my mind the minute Liz Kendall stated about calls being recorded.

I'll be recording any calls with them going forward myself.

Thanks very much I'm unsure if I get lcwra, I find it overwhelming so all I can do is wait for the brown envelopes 😔

I'm wondering whether that would be legal/what kind of legislation would be necessary to enable it. But honestly, with DLA I never had an assessment, because it wasn't needed. They had all the evidence and they reached a conclusion and it was painless. Whereas PIP they had an assessment and all my evidence (I recorded my assessment but it bears little resemblance to either the assessment report or the decision letter). MR was even worse. Tribunal was hellish but they did actually review my evidence and so awarded me the same as the DLA had years before. All that expense to the tax payer which could have been avoided by just shifting me from DLA to PIP equivalent with a check that nothing had changed.

This is what I would rather see done. People not needing to go to MR or tribunal because the job is done right the first time around.

So many articles demonising neurodivergence of late. Some very hateful. There are also some articles claiming autistic people are least at risk, but this is garbage. Anyone with autism or ADHD who has claimed PIP has probably been through war to get it. There are countless people out there who tried but fell at the first hurdle because the assessment destroyed them :/

Every time a govt minister conflates PIP with ESA, I just want to scream. Understanding which benefit is which and what each one does is the baseline for trying to make changes. If you don't understand/want to understand the difference you shouldn't be 'amending' them, much less claiming it's moral. It's not moral to put 3.2 million people, mostly disabled people, into poverty.

Going to reiterate what I said before. Even if the questions on the consultation don't ask what you want to say, still fill it in. Add whatever you think they should know. They can refuse to ask but we should still take the opportunity to tell them :)