Green Paper Discussion - includes accessible formats and consultation event sign up links!
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I took a break from reading any news since Monday as it was doing my head in but the worries were still there in the back of my mind.
This whole saga feels like the sword of Damocles is hovering over my head. When I first signed up to this site in late 2023 I wanted to not feel alone when the Tories starting their campaign against disabled people/incapacitated people and I'm eternally grateful to have signed up here, I'm grateful to really decent and courageous people to engage with.
My situation, I can walk, talk, use my arms but I'm mentally screwed up and missing a vertebra in my neck which gives me great pain and constant cervical headaches.
Labour and the political class who have it out for disabled and or incapacitated people will not win, this is merely a continuation of a long running saga which some say started with Tony Blair, others say it started under Thatcher and continued under John Major.
My mother said the Green Paper will get amended and watered down, that's all good but what about Labour's legislation in June? Can the Supreme Court intervene against money bills? This is not a done deal, this has legs and people need to hold the proverbial line.
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Agreed !
Life is hard enough without worrying our heads over a comma not being used . Just felt it was unnecessary to pick holes in someone for something so trivial .
Your mum was right 🙂
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In regards of the grammar situation, possibly it could be a trigger to the person, slightly off topic, my mother who is in her 70s is a stickler for grammar and good handwriting.
There has to be a line in the sand though, people here do not care about grammar, there's bigger, massive barracuda type fish to fry.
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Seems if it's a money bill it cannot be challenged
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Just found this on benefitsandwork.co.uk. the survey on how we spend out pip is apparently being sent out. It says DO NOT fill it in as its none of their business
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/04/17/dwp-pip-survey/
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You asked for our thoughts on the email you received from DWP Public Events Consultation Team. I have listed my thoughts below.
The email is carefully worded to avoid direct rejection, while subtly steering people towards the only guaranteed form of participation, the online survey. So, if you're never offered a place at an in-person event or virtual event, they can still claim you were offered the chance to share your views, through the survey.
The inclusion of that link in your email speaks volumes. It highlights that their preferred method of engagement is through feedback channels that require no real interaction.
Call me cynical, but restricting access to events often has less to do with practical limitations and more to do with controlling the narrative. It is classic smoke and mirrors, create the illusion of inclusion, then quietly sideline the people most likely to raise difficult or inconvenient questions.
Virtual waiting lists? The very idea is baffling. Traditionally, virtual sessions operate on a first-come, first-served basis, not through arbitrary queues. Yet now, we find ourselves lining up for events that, by definition, have no capacity limits. It is absurd. You are, in effect, standing in line for a room that doesn’t exist, waiting for an invisible person to vacate a seat that was never there.
A virtual system designed for accessibility should not be riddled with needless obstacles. When virtual spaces mimic real-world inefficiencies, we have to ask, is this really about inclusion, or simply about control disguised as process?
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There is no need to answer my post in that way. I said time and again that I wasn't criticising you, that I agreed with your point and I think that you are quite capable of understanding the article!!
I was just trying to say that the news in that article was a positive development and concertrating on what one negative MP had to say at the end meant that someone else reading your post might be put off reading the article as they thought it was bad news.
Out of consideration to your feelings, I did not want to put it that way and did my very best to be as respectful as possible to you.
I thought that you would understand what I was trying to say. Perhaps I expected too much of you as there are so many good genuine people on this community.
We are all trying to cope with so much with these sadistic proposals that negativity especially where there is good news is surely not the way to go.
There are utterly desperate people on this community watching their lives being destroyed so surely it makes sense to be as positive and sensitive as we can on here and although we can't get rid of the negative, we must try to do our best to get it into perspective.
I was just very concerned that this was how it appeared. If you thought I was interfering it's only because it is so heartbreaking to see all the abject misery that members are going through on this thread and others too.
Well, whatever you've written about me is your opinion. It looks as I will just have to keep doing what I can on this community, which I will undoubtedly continue to do, in the most respectful and encouraging way I can.
It was just a matter of time before I would come across this sort of situation, I was ready for it and it will not put me off. I've seen it now and will see it again. I'm just glad that the vast majority of the people on this community are so understanding and flexible in their attitude to others on here. I've only had positive to very positive feedback to my posts even when interventing in something that's happening.
We need to support and encourage others on this community because we've probably never been so in need of it. There is enough negativity already from the government. It is vital that we keep negativity on the community to a minimum, as so many are coping so badly with this nightmare that none of us can wake up from.
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Hi @Catherine21
I know that the Tories will all vote for the proposals but what I was saying is that the Labour government will be considering their party unity which is unconnected to how the Conservative Party will vote.
If they do not present a united front to the country, they could all find themselves in a very bad position. We are not the only people who loathe them.
They have already done so much damage to all sorts of people in this country and they are all sick of high taxes, their jobs being at risk and callous, badly thought out policies, harming all of us, even if they are not being harmed as badly as we are.
They know we have had enough of them looking after the wealthy and big corporations while making ordinary peoples lives miserable by making everyone poorer. They now know how deeply unpopular they are so they've come to the point that they will be more respectful of us all. 👍 😊
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Politics in Great Britain works exactly like in any other country - the ruling classes rule, for others there are decorations like totalitarianism, democracy, monarchy and so on. That is, the influence of the people on the authorities is very limited in any country.
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Hi @sarah_lea12
You're very welcome. 😊 I agree politics IS complecated, it was not simple explaining that either!!
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Yep throw in the bin offering 10 pounds pls it just gets worse want to break down how much we spend so calculation for when they change pip I bet that will be lower than now I feel so flat now
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What are we going to do if they put through as primary legislation or money bill have you any ideas
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I hope so yes they damaged everyone life's the trouble is starmer doesn't care about reputation but I can imagine alot of mps despise him as well imagine how he treats them look like he treat reeves and kendell top dogs when will there be an end to this
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They really are devious, and diabolical. Mines going in the bin if I get one, just hope others can see its just trickery and bin theirs. They are obsessed with making us all destitute one way or another. I'm sick of them
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I hear what you're saying, and yes, it’s true that power often feels concentrated in the hands of a few, not just here in the UK but globally. There’s definitely a long history of decisions being made without genuine public input, and that does understandably lead to disillusionment.
That said, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to suggest that public influence is just decorative or meaningless. Yes, systemic change is slow and uneven, but pressure from the public, media scrutiny, legal challenges, campaigns, and even individual voices can and do have an impact, especially when sustained and collective.
Many of the rights and protections we rely on today didn’t just happen by chance. They were fought for, sometimes by people who never saw the results themselves. So while I fully understand the disillusionment, I think we still have to hold on to the idea that our voices matter, even when it feels like they don’t.
Even small acts of speaking up or raising awareness contribute to a bigger picture, and that’s worth something.
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you could always lie on your answers not that i am insinuating people do then buy a nice new plant for the garden 😀
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Hhonestly I wish I never caught starmer saying sicknote Britain I agree so sick of them what's next e
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There has been so heartbreaking stories coming out on how these cuts will effect people so it's getting on news I just hope people seeing and understanding what's happening to us all
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I spend it at harrods darling harrods Don't you know who I am !!
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I had a labour councillor at my door last night, he asked if I had any concerns. I told him I am not speaking to the devils deciple lol I was so mad I just slammed door in his face.
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