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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    I hope so yes they damaged everyone life's the trouble is starmer doesn't care about reputation but I can imagine alot of mps despise him as well imagine how he treats them look like he treat reeves and kendell top dogs when will there be an end to this

  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Online Community Member Posts: 36 Empowering

    They really are devious, and diabolical. Mines going in the bin if I get one, just hope others can see its just trickery and bin theirs. They are obsessed with making us all destitute one way or another. I'm sick of them

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,074 Championing

    I hear what you're saying, and yes, it’s true that power often feels concentrated in the hands of a few, not just here in the UK but globally. There’s definitely a long history of decisions being made without genuine public input, and that does understandably lead to disillusionment.

    That said, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to suggest that public influence is just decorative or meaningless. Yes, systemic change is slow and uneven, but pressure from the public, media scrutiny, legal challenges, campaigns, and even individual voices can and do have an impact, especially when sustained and collective.

    Many of the rights and protections we rely on today didn’t just happen by chance. They were fought for, sometimes by people who never saw the results themselves. So while I fully understand the disillusionment, I think we still have to hold on to the idea that our voices matter, even when it feels like they don’t.

    Even small acts of speaking up or raising awareness contribute to a bigger picture, and that’s worth something.

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,379 Championing

    you could always lie on your answers not that i am insinuating people do then buy a nice new plant for the garden 😀

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    Hhonestly I wish I never caught starmer saying sicknote Britain I agree so sick of them what's next e

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    There has been so heartbreaking stories coming out on how these cuts will effect people so it's getting on news I just hope people seeing and understanding what's happening to us all

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    I spend it at harrods darling harrods Don't you know who I am !!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    Good on you !!! Hhhh did make me laugh I bet you wasn't the only one I can't even vote my areas one can't vote I'm really annoyed about that

  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Online Community Member Posts: 36 Empowering

    No voting in my area this year either. I think he only came because they are on Easter break, looking desperate if you ask me, trying to act like they really care about the community. I've voted Labour all my life. Never again.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    I agree if they came here I know the neighbour next door would chew his ear off I'd join into recieved a response from mine only emailed 21 times I skim when I read and caught word dignity and respect oh no way I told him that is something that the government dwp or some mps give us no dignity or respect I had a dig I said I only respect john mcdonnell Jeremy Corbyn Richard the guy who did pertition and spoke out so much I said they are the true face of labour men of honour I also said do you think the three at the top will have any of your backs I said No it was the voting public my daughter says who and what are you trying to write now an epilogue we shall not be removed and much more 😉

  • egister
    egister Posts: 887 Empowering

    In school in ancient times I argued with teachers that handwriting is not important because people will type on computers. And who was right - the schoolboy or the wise teachers?)

  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Online Community Member Posts: 36 Empowering

    Well I live near a load of farmers, OAPs and obviously there will be sick and disabled round here. So I can only imagine what other responses he's had when knocking on their door. He did look a bit shook up after his rounds lol. Think he went home after he came here😁🤣

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 309 Empowering

    I replied to that quote by the MP too, it was a most triggering thing to say. @chiarieds was right to point it out. I won't repeat myself but see earlier post. Ignoring it diminishes what we are fighting for.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    I used to walk to school then jump in a bush and hide even then I couldn't abide the normal structure of society the occasions I did go to school I'd sit and stare out the window taking noting in thinking get me out of here I did like art that was all so all this started from young age

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,271 Championing

    Good well yes farmers elderly should of planned wisely and avoid god id love to have one on one with them like question time

  • egister
    egister Posts: 887 Empowering

    In my opinion, it is necessary to write not only to MP, but also to corporations that directly or indirectly benefit from reducing payments to disabled people.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 887 Empowering
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    Think about it, why doesn't the government "allow" all forms of even non-violent protest?
    Obviously, what is allowed is something that has no actual impact. Maybe we should also think about other methods of getting our opinions across to the authorities? Regarding the UK parliamentary system - it's scary that MPs in parties cannot vote as they choose and are subordinate to the top, although it is the number of MPs that chooses the Prime Minister.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 627 Championing

    Wow @MW123, thank you so much for such a sharp and thoughtful analysis-honestly, you’ve helped me see this whole thing even more clearly(as you’ve done with many other issues). Your take isn’t cynical at all; it’s such  a credible and powerful breakdown of what’s really going on here.


    That phrase “creating an illusion” really stuck with me. This entire green paper proposal and the non-inclusive consultation process does feel like smoke and mirrors, doesn’t it? That link(I call it the Trap😳) in the email is steering( or luring ) disabled people—into a tightly controlled and pre-scripted process by the Government , leaving little room for genuine input or dialogue. Even some of my disabled colleagues have unknowingly followed that link, believing it was a genuine way to contribute.


    And your line—“waiting for an invisible person to vacate a seat that was never there”-just says it all. It’s like a performative political theatre of inclusion, where the stage was never actually built for us.

    To all
    While this sadly unsurprising experience reminds us to stay vigilant and never take anything said by the government at face value, I also believe we must hold on to HOPE and keep pushing back. 

    For me, like many others, this proposal will deeply affect my wellbeing, my family, and our future-if it’s allowed to go ahead.  I’m

    I’ve had to keep my fears and anxieties at bay and find the courage to be brave-and that’s what pushed me to step out of my comfort zone. I’ve never been active on social media before, but I created a Bluesky account(with a close up profile photo💥)today and shared my story publicly, even tagging my MP💪🏼. It’s so scary, but I felt I had no choice. 

    We can’t afford to stay silent or let fear hold us back.


    Let’s keep encouraging each other to speak up, stay aware, and fight this on all fronts.  MW123-Your words, wisdom and support mean a lot-not just to me, but to so many of us in this community.

    With respect and Solidarity ✊

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,074 Championing

    Money bills can be used to adjust payment amounts (freeze, increase, or cut benefits like Universal Credit) because they focus on spending. What they can't do is change who qualifies, how claims are assessed, or the conditions for receiving benefits. While money bills can tweak payments, major reforms require full legislation.

    Most welfare reforms involve both financial changes and rule modifications, which is why they usually need primary legislation, not just a money bill.

    If the government wants to alter eligibility, assessments, or conditions, it must use primary legislation, which takes longer as MPs and Lords debate and vote on it.

    You asked what we can do, all of us can continue to contact MPs, ministers, and organisations. This is important for raising awareness and pressuring decision-makers before these changes become law. It’s important to highlight how these changes could push many people into poverty, as policymakers need to understand the human consequences, not just the financial savings.