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Great post! You gave a very insightful description of MPs surprise at finding the shoe on the other foot, with having THEIR large salary and perks put under threat!

Isn't it all about self interest though. There is zero concern for the people who put them there in the first place.

They shouldn't be at all surprised then when voters see this disdain for them and vote them out after one term.

Remember that we might get some casualties at the upcoming Local Elections though and they are held every year, not once very four years like the General Election so they could keep losing out!!

I read about that Labour MP myself. At least he was honest about his self interest and didn't try very hard to put a spin on his complete disregard for disabled people.

This is the problem with the Labour leadership talking about finding all this opportunities to get back into the workplace for us, all the time knowing that they are simply covering up the by far the most serious cost cutting excerise that we have had to deal with so far.

It is this very well structured gaslighting excerise that has been our biggest problem, having to convince other MPs that the consequences for us are truly disastrous, not jobs for all and hardly anyone losing benefits, as the vile leadership are saying.

Even if it is self interest only with Labour MPs when the vote for these sadistic proposals goes ahead, as long as their votes are against, it's still just as good as a vote made by those who genuinely care about our concerns.

I'm afraid we can't be worried about the moral stance of each MP, as long is it is a vote against, or, if they really must, an abstension.

What we must look at too, with 55 MPs definitely voting against and another 100 considering their position, which probably means they are going to abstain, we mustn't concentrate on how many votes may go through but the problems that this issue is making for the unity of the Labour Government.

That is what will help us, the Government do not want to alienate their back benchers.

However, whatever happens, we must expect them to want to push some sort of so called reform through. What we need to do is keep the pressure up on them.

You are right to say that lobbying works, we must force them to back down as much as we can on the worst parts of these proposals AND then keep working on the rest of it!!

@Tumilty

Thats what I wanted just a supporting letter requesting a telephone or paper based assessment.

Why. Aren't dpac saying anything everywhere it's written as it happening

Some of my scores in Daily Living were over 4... 8 and 10.

Is 4 going to be the highest number in the post-2026 era? If my highest scores were reduced to 4s I'd still get enhanced DL under the forthcoming changes.

If there are even more changes that make four the new 8 or 10 I might just scape it but it seems unlikely.

Nobody will get PIP unless they're bedbound. They may as well scrap it. Very very concerned. Does anybody have a better source than B & W?

Possibly keeping their powder dry in the event of it been passed so they don't have chance to amend the document of any weak points or illegalities ....

Just a thought

Sorry Zipz I haven't came across any better sources than B&W.

Hi Zips, not sure what better info you are looking to see. Benefits and Work are an extremely reliable, on point and a very reputable organisation as Scope themselves advised yesterday on a post on here.

This does not say a word about limiting points to 0, 2, and 4.

Something better that an anonymous post without a direct source. The information was posted by a user not a modulator.

I emailed 3 different mps not from my area I got a response emailed 6 last night who are agreeing to cuts

@Zipz I posted this for information. It was in The Guardian.