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  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,476 Championing

    "Then sanctioned when we can’t work."

    The sanctions regime for JSA came in with the Welfare Reform Act 2012 ready for UC in April 2013.

  • jasminehoop
    jasminehoop Online Community Member Posts: 51 Contributor

    Then for that matter, don't stop at 14. What about 16 years ago when Labour robbed us all to bail out their banking chums? That was the actual start of the rot.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,476 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Ok. It's Starmer's fault. Not. What about Iain Duncan Smith - the architect of welfare reforms - for PM so he can fix it for us again?

    He got Brexit done. He knows all about the broken benefits system. The man is a genius!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    it doesn’t matter when it was thought up or introduced. Starmer could stop it now. Starmer continued to fight for the Tory green paper in court . According to Ellen Clifford they fought the case hard. And they’ve come back with even harder cuts than the Tory’s . It’s not because of a black hole or defence , it’s because this is what they planned to do while in opposition.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,476 Championing

    Yes, the Cabinet ministers who collaborated with IDS in 2011, 2012 and 2015 to pull the wool over our eyes couldn't risk the Tory plans not going ahead and being found out before UC swallows up legacy benefits..

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,476 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Does he know exactly how they did it? I'm willing to believe he has been wrongly briefed by colleagues and advisors since becoming an MP in 2015.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,476 Championing
    edited April 2025

    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 242 EmpoweringApril 25

    His staring eyes and blank expression .

    "His staring eyes and blank expression ."

    I think 25 years in the military might give you staring eyes and a blank expression.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    edited April 2025

    @WhatThe
    I really appreciate you sharing your insights and experiences-your knowledge over the past 14 years has added valuable context to this and on many other threads. It’s important we remember where we’ve come from.

    That said, we’re now facing a critical and rapidly evolving situation with the upcoming parliamentary vote on the Pathways to Work green paper in June. Many of us are holding onto HOPE that our collective voices-through campaigns,petitions, lobbying MPs, and raising awareness across various social media-can bring the scrutiny and resistance this proposal urgently needs.It’s getting clear many MPs seem more focused on protecting their seats, privileges, and six-figure salaries than upholding the rights and dignity of disabled people. That’s exactly why now is the time to apply pressure from every angle-relentlessly and strategically.

    Given how high the stakes are, with so many disabled people potentially facing devastating consequences like poverty, destitution, or worse, I believe now is the time to channel our energy, frustration, and lived experience into strategic action. Together, united in the present, we are stronger-and we can still make a difference.

    Let’s move forward with that focus and urgency.

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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing

    You’re very welcome, @Catherine21. This open letter, initiated by psychologist Dr. Jay Watts, has now gathered over 1,250 signatures (see screenshot from X). Let’s keep the momentum going-please sign and share it widely. Every voice counts.

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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    edited April 2025

    @Passerby It looks like the petition is currently awaiting approval from the Parliamentary Petitions Standards Team. Hopefully, it’ll be published soon. Let’s keep an eye out—I’ll also make sure to give a heads-up once it goes live. I believe it’s a strong petition with a unique angle, and I’m confident it will gain significant support.

    That said, the wait is definitely frustrating

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    The Devastating Human Rights Impact of Social Security Failures in the UK


    Join Amnesty UK in-person or online for the launch of a campaign uncovering the realities of social security in the UK.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,775 Championing

    Thank you very much for sharing this, I've applied and got ticket for it (the online event). Welcome back too! It's good to see you back 😊. I do hope your Retreat was everything you hoped for, and more 🙏.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Hi @Santosha12,

    Thank you so much for your lovely welcome – it really means a lot! It’s great to hear from you. The retreat and the Welsh location were absolutely beautiful. On the flip side, I was in quite a bit of pain and physically struggling, and the fatigue didn’t help either. I wasn’t able to attend most of the sessions, but the few I did join left me feeling really uplifted. The fresh air and stunning scenery were just lush.

    I got back late last night – completely worn out – but of course, my insomnia had other plans! I’m so glad you managed to book onto the online Human Rights session. I’ve booked it too😊I hope you are starting to feel better.

    Take care and see you around. Once again , thank you so much! 🙏🏽

  • jasminehoop
    jasminehoop Online Community Member Posts: 51 Contributor

    I doubt anybody here but you believes that criticising Starmer's bloodthirsty attitude to benefits claimants means excusing IDS's murderous approach to social security.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing

    Dear All,

    If you haven’t received a response to your emails and are physically able to attend your MP’s local advice surgery, please consider this powerful option suggested by Dr Jay Watts (Psychologist) on the X platform (see Dr Jay’s banner below). It’s a valuable opportunity to respectfully urge your MP to vote against-or at the very least abstain—when the Green Paper proposal comes to Parliament in June.

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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Could you consider lobbying your MP to attend this important event at Westminster Hall, Parliament, London?
    The event is organised by the Coalition Against Benefit Cuts and allies.(Credit: DPAC post on X – see screenshot below)

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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Severely disabled individuals aged 18–21 will retain eligibility for PIP under the proposed reforms. However, they will be denied access to the UC health element until age 22, even if they meet the revised PIP criteria.

    This structural exclusion from support available to older cohorts presents, in my opinion, a compelling case for indirect age discrimination under the Equality Act 2010.

    Until passed by Parliament, draft policies or reforms have no legal standing, as no one has yet suffered discrimination in law. However, if this becomes law and someone is affected, a judicial review or discrimination claim under the Equality Act 2010 could be pursued.

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