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Going back a few pages but if you mean the assessment report did not resemble the actual assessment contents, I think this is something that happens more often than the outside world would like to believe.
I have a recording of my assessment, and when you compare the text of the assessment with what was said, there are numerous discrepancies. There are also points where you hear the assessor typing on the recording but none of the information mentioned at that point appeared on the assessment report.
And for several of my criteria it said "x reported difficulty with this - but I think they can do it fine so 0 points". The assessor never read my evidence. My decision maker read a bit of it but the decision bore zero resemblance to my case or my evidence. It doesn't help that the decision makers and MR people are mostly not the assessors, and so most decisions are made by people who have never met you. In my case everything was based on the assessment report, which was inaccurate, rather than the evidence :/
Reading comments of other claimants I feel like this happens quite often, and is one of the big reasons a lot of cases end up at tribunal. It's also the reason why the 4 points rule leaves nobody safe.
The DWP as an organisation has too much power, basically. There is no regulator. Most other bodies have regulators to ensure checks and balances, but the DWP deals with a huge number of vulnerable people and there is nobody to ensure they do it properly. Without a complete overhaul of the DWP, breaking it down and rebuilding it with these checks and balances, any policy that comes from that department is probably going to be unfit for purpose :/ Just the idea of giving such an organisation more responsibility or ability to monitor or intrude into people's lives is quite terrifying because who is there to ensure safeguarding targets are met?2 -
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Loulou82xxOnline Community Member Posts: 51 EmpoweringApril 26What do you think is the best and most productive way to fight this? We can only deal with the people who currently have the power to change things. Or do we just give up and accept that nothing can be done?Numerous Labour MP's voted for the past changes to WCA so are likely a lost cause. I want to feel hopeful and is there any possibility for legal challenges to past changes in legacy benefits or are we screwed because we didn't act hard enough back then?loulou, thank you so much for listening! Labour Ministers who served 10 or 15 or 20 years ago are desperate to keep this under wraps. I recently read that Faiza Shaheen MP - blocked from standing in the 2024 General Election - had lost her mother to suicide in a benefits crisis.
For what possible reason would the Labour Party carry Iain bl**dy Duncan Smith back to his seat?
I'm doing this with hope or I wouldn't be doing it. I think MW is saying that there is the possibility of judicial review for what exactly I am trying to learn from her posts. Delegated powers or Acts?
Yes, people are being screwed in the reassessment process because of those changes but are more worried about future changes is what I've been trying to explain.
In 2015 it was "We will continue to support….the most severely disabled" when the LCW component for sick and disabled claimants was axed. DWP cannot be allowed to do this again.
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my first assessment was the same . Ignored all medical evidence, my GP was stunned and said he’s never had his letter ignored before. Only letter assessor mentioned she wrote the Dr said something she didn’t. All questions she put x says she can’t do x but I say she can’t, zero points .i won low award at MR but went to tribunal for mobility . Panel plus dwp member were shocking . The disabled member even tried removing points I had . Went to upper tier where even dwp admitted they erred in law . Took two years of fighting. Now I’ll be back there again.
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PasserbyPosts: 182 Empowering2:58AMNo one really cares about Keir Starmer's faith., as everybody knows that his faith is dishonesty. However, what's more important is that, apart probably from you, I haven't come across yet a single person in the UK saying that they've faith in Keir Starmer.But Keir Starmer doesn't have a faith! He does not have one! 🙄
Those hiding beneath a cloak of respectability know how to fool people. They've done it for years.
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I am also in this situation where, ignoring that I took the DWP to court, and that I requested specific documents in a pdf format and that over the last 5 years have amended that pdf file because of serious error on their part already admitted in the Upper Tribunal. I now have to reapply because the judge decided that there was no alteration in benefits that could be given and struck it out.
I asked for pdf documents (which I have, but wanted the DWP and court to realise that just changing a benefit entitlement does not change the assessment. This same department is continually making mistakes and is costing lives by withdrawing help both financial and otherwise.
After a life long battle with stomach cancer since birth and the fight over the last 8 years (up to 2022.) my friend who I became an appointee for died awaiting the back payment and change of assessment details.
He left a wife and two children, was given properties that did not suit him as access to the property for emergency services was paramount with other problems he had.
I had him rehomed,adaptions to the "new"property, cooking and Bathing facilities changed to adapt to a wheel chair height. Yet he still lived a life and enjoyed his kids even though he was divorced.
NOT, the NHS that caused this, since in applying to CCCouncil, and placing him back on the radar as vunerable after heart Attacks and fits, they assisted in helping him get back on track, abandondend by the system of assessment for finances over assessment for treatment.
I thought that is why the NHS was bourne, to give free medical treatment at source to all people that live here.
It is the government that alter this attitude and make money from the system that should put that money back into the system to support "under funded" sections that do not always get the funding they need and at the right amount at the right time to assist benefit users.
Yes I said benefit users, since there would be no point in using the NHS if you did not need help and would "benefit" from some help as to what to do. ITS, not a cost cutting excercise, but the use of technology to advance and beat things like dementia, Cancer, and polio to name some.
Have you asked whether the amount of money being spent in defending the cases that require rework, a MR, or a Tribunal, only to have to appeal again and go to an upper Tribunal costs against the amount of money being spent supporting "CHARITIES" LIKE SCOPE, MIND, and even the NHS?
YOUR time has come to be heard, as you have the power to change the future, and do not need to try to predict the future but do what it says on the box, "What is the cost of a life?" "Why do we pay N. I. if American companies are offering to get you better treatment and to jump the NHS queue for £25/month?
In the small print:- Don't do pre-existing conditions, don't do lung conditions if you have smoked or your parents smoked, if you fart and it smells could be an underlying condition of Cancer of the Bowels, (sorry I put that one in.) my point they will always find a way to take your money until you need to claim…. And by the way I don't live in America, where you have to BUY your own medical insurance or get nothing.
Australia has this system where your N.I. contributions automaticall get this and all you pay for is things like anestetic or the guy that gives you that needle, but, it is priced accordinly as this is not the profit side but a simple costing, which has been BULK BOUGHT.
I want a choice.
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OBV, the DWP warned assessors that claimants might change their behaviour during assessments in order to reach the 'new' threshold (new as of 2016). That is bound to prejudice those assessments.
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Remember that Farage traditionally does not believe in a Welfare State. He would Sell our NHS to his mates in The US, and if you think immigration is the cause for all our woes, NO immigration is NOT bankrupting The UK… Most studies typically find that the fiscal impacts of migration represent less than 1% of GDP.
Brexit, the pandemic, Liz Truss, Trump Tariffs have done far far more harm to the UK Economy. I am not a fan of this particular Labour Government, and they are wrong to cut benefits to the Sick and Disabled but those who think Reform is the answer are delusional.
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No. She helped IDS get his work done.
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do you mean in regards to the 4 point rule but they knew in 2016 ?
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I'm not against immigration , but I just watched a video on facebook, a landlord rang his council because has been offered 6 year contract with his council to rehouse illegal immigrants , with an extra percentage of rent paid , and the tenants get free rent , council tax, tv licence, broadband, water, gas, electric , they are not allowed to work so they get clothes money etc and all their white goods are provided brand new .
This is grossly unfair to everyone in the UK, everyone pays more than enough for utilities, this is just a pxxx take and all while we disabled are living in anxiety and fear of losing it all .
This is not balanced .
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ian duncan smith
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This is so similar to my case, I am so sorry you have to go through it all again :(
My MR took two words from a seven page statement from my disability support officer at the time and ignored everything else she wrote. She was absolutely livid and told me I should be seeking legal advice if I didn't win at tribunal. I did, thankfully, but like you, the so called 'disability' expert was smug and completely ignorant of autism in real terms. She was also really rude to my parents and implied they had either spoiled me or neglected to teach me skills.
My mother is not the kind of person you say that to. LOL.
I was lucky that my review was done paper based, but I sent them my statement from my tribunal and pointed out all the errors in my original case. I don't know if it had an impact, but all they did was phone my mother (my phone advocate) and clarify some points with her before awarding me PIP.
I never feel fully like my claim is secure, though. I miss DLA so much. I felt truly independent then, and made SO MUCH progress in my life which one year of appealing PIP unfortunately eroded :/
@WhatThe, I wonder if that 'warning' about claimants (ie the implication we are all waiting to defraud the government) is actually to obfuscate the very real possibility the DWP will instruct to award fewer points in categories where claimants previously obtained 4.
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I agree 💯
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My review form is due anytime now. I’m hoping for once it’s paper based. I will have to fight for 4 points now though . The backlog will be huge. I’ve actually said on here it made me wonder if during my last assessment 2 years ago the 4 point rule was in the pipeline as she steered me to certain answers for 2 points .
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I had a re-assessment form sent to me as i have two new conditions , sent it back on Tuesday they received it I got a text saying so . I hope they won't phone me as I sent in tons of proof . I heard reassessments are taking five+ months , and this is why the DWP said it will be faster to reassess .I hope I get 4 points this time , that way when or if I need to apply again then I will already have the 4 points . Stressed out .
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