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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Dan wootton also has some good videos on starmer that if true and finally comes out could finish him .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    omg , I live in London and thanks to him it takes forever to get anywhere, not that I can drive or go out often.

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Community Member Posts: 178 Empowering

    I really hope everything works out for you jul1, and you do not lose a penny !! ,

    Hoping the same for everyone on here.

    None of us should be living under the stress of losing any of the 'PATHETIC PITTANCE ' we get , let's not forget that we literally have to beg and 'jump through hoops' to get the PITTANCE too.

    This country is a disgrace and I WILL NEVER VOTE for anybody again.

    Much love to you jul1, and everyone else on here, it's been a rough few weeks but we have to carry on fighting. As hard as it is.

    MUCH LOVE AND HUGS TO YOU ALL. xxxxx

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 705 Championing

    @secretsquirrel1

    I've just watched him. How and where does he get all these compelling background stories? He's certainly interesting. Just wondering.🤔

  • apples
    apples Community Member Posts: 556 Empowering

    I hope this is legit, I’ve never seen any of his videos before so hope this isn’t fake news as I’ve not seen anywhere written about was he’s talking about

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing

    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 20 Connected5:32PM

    I thought the wca for lcwra is getting left the same until it's abolishment in 2028 .... Only then will the pip assessment take it over

    As far as I know, reassessments resumed in 2021 but under 2016 rules which raised the threshold for LCWRA qualification by removing the LCW component.

    Everyone is being moved onto the UC system one way or another. I don't think there was ever meant to be two near-identical 'health assessments'.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I think from journalists . He also mentions fact checkers so it seems reputable to me . He’s a journalist himself so obviously knows people in the know. If it’s true I wish it would all come out and finish him .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I’ve watched a few of his videos and he seems legit . I read the same in the papers this morning, apparently it’s information from a book that’s been written about him .

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing
    edited April 2025

    I have clearly wasted my time trying to answer your question. Cheers.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 705 Championing

    @secretsquirrel1

    I hope it’s true! I’ve never personally trusted journalists without solid evidence to back it up, so if something positive comes from it for our joint cause, I will always welcome it. Best wishes.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • Nat_88
    Nat_88 Community Member Posts: 9 Connected

    It saddens me to see one marginalised group fall for the lies told about another marginalised group.

    For some reason I couldn’t respond to the post I read but people who come to the UK seeking refugee or asylum seeker status are not ‘illegal immigrants’, they are stuck in limbo whilst they wait for their claims to be processed. Under the previous government processing claims slowed right down, hence the backlog and having to put claimants in hotels , though the private accommodation providers are making a pretty penny off government contracts.

    Also remember that refugees and asylum seekers are people who have been forced to leave home due to war and persecution, and many of them are in fact disabled/sick themselves. People accuse us of lying to be able to claim ‘benefits’ that we know are not enough to live on, why are we believing others who wish to spread hatred about another group of vulnerable people?

    This is how we’re persuaded to vote against our own self interest to ‘stick it’ to some vulnerable group but then when we become vulnerable ourselves we find theres barely any support available because if you allow the government to go after one marginalised/vulnerable group, they’ll go after every marginalised/vulnerable group.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Community Member Posts: 417 Championing
    edited April 2025

    When I lived in London I relied a lot on the buses, and some of the routes that were my lifelines back then don't exist now. They were rerouted to favour tourists over residents, or just cut back and removed completely.

    I could list a whole slew of routes I used to rely on that are either now gone or rerouted at the point they were useful to me.

    On the subject of asylum seekers, in my job I encounter them relatively often. Usually with letters saying, congratulations on being granted asylum, you now have x number of days to quit your accommodation. So basically being granted asylum means being made automatically homeless. The whole system is broken but it is not the fault of these people. The ones I've met have been polite, respectful and genuinely just wanting to sort their lives out. Many are at rock bottom. I will never hold them responsible for what is happening to us - like us, they are marginalised, unseen and misrepresented, but still human beings.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    Thank you pinkrose for your very kind wishes! 🤗

    I'll join you too, in my ardent wish that everything works out for everyone on this community and for all working age disabled people. 🤞🙏

    It is a measily amount of money that we have such a terrible challenge to keep. 😡

    This government IS appalling and the successive governments before it haven't been much better, for years now.

    I have too lost all faith in the political process but as I still want my vote to count, I shall spoil my ballot in future elections. That means that I will send them the message that I don't want to vote for ANY of them!! 😤

    We MUST keep going, however hard it is to do and I will continue in my support in the fight against these vile proposals for you, all the community and for all disabled people. I couldn't find it within me to do anything else. ✊

    I'm so glad you are feeling more positive than you were and it's lovely to hear from you again. 😊 🫶

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Hi @Nat_88

    I’m so sorry to hear about the negative experiences you’ve faced following your post. It’s heartbreaking to learn about the harrowing experiences asylum seekers and refugees go through — especially those who have disabilities themselves, and their families and children too, from what you’ve shared and from what I’ve heard more widely.

    Have you tried contacting the Scope Helpline to seek accurate advice ? They might be able to offer advice or signpost you to appropriate support. (Just a thought?)

    Take care

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 223 Empowering

    Technically I've never been assessed for lcwra as I moved to UC voluntarily in mid 2022 from ESA support group

    you automatically qualify for the lcwra group if you move over from support group .....

    Last time I was reassessed was Nov 2019 for ESA support group , was supposed to be assessed again November 2021

    So I'm coming up in November for 6 years since reassessment and 4 years overdue

    The DWP did start reassessments in 2021 but they were for lcw and changes of circumstances only a handful have only

    As I understand it and still do the ESA50 and UC50 are identical including descriptors for lcw and lcwra and I've seen no mention of anything changing to this until 2028

    New and existing claims for pip will be affected from November 2026 onwards but lcwra will be reassessed in the same way it is now with the same descriptors as now till 2028

    Obviously who knows what's going to happen by then bit I think that's how it stands at the moment

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing

    Danny, LCWRA is the Support Group in ESA. Assessments and reassessments are carried out under a WCA previously for allocation to either group with a component and now for allocation to either group but with only one paying a premium. There is one assessment.

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