Get your MP to act against cuts

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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 671 Championing
    edited April 27

    @Amaya_Ringo

    How horrible, isn’t it? Why the heck do they get paid those six-figure wages – just to sit on their bum all day or go into hiding? Seriously, he should be reported if, as an MP, he’s not listening to any of his constituents. I don’t blame you for not being on social media – I was never on it either. I’m purely on it now to tail-hate these six-figure wage-earning leeches who do nothing but worry about their comfy, lavished lifestyles. Like you, going to see an MP in person isn’t something I would normally choose either. But in my case, although I have no desire to go in person, it has become a matter of survival for me, my family, and my children -so I have no choice but to face it.

    Please at least keep pressing on your ward councillors. I so hate this government that doesn’t show an ounce of respect, dignity, or empathy for the disabled and vulnerable people in their communities. Keep targeting APPGs, Lords, Baronesses, the lot – like I said in my post above.

    If it’s easy, keep your personal story prepared. Somewhere along Scope’s Green Paper thread, I shared the framework I use when emailing anyone related to the government – it might help, though you might have to scroll through a lot of pages to find it.

    Keep trying – never stop till June. In Solidarity ✊
    Best wishes.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,831 Championing

    Two MP's murdered in recent years and vandalised offices has changed how they work. Who can blame them? What can MP's do for constituents if their accounts are spammed and emails don't get read?

    The PLP has a sense of humour but maybe it shouldn't.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,831 Championing
    edited April 27

    Members should also be aware that flooding MPs' email accounts with complaints can suggest an ability to carry out administrative tasks, repeatedly and reliably...

    Turning up at an MP's office and expecting to be seen just isn't realistic.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    I am glad that you have had such a reviving and productive break in such a beautiful place @noonebelieves! 🤗

    I will look on the relevant threads for the rundown on your break. Don't worry about not providing a link to them. I know that it's not particularly easy to do.

    I hope you are recovering well from your journey, that must have been difficult. 😔

    I didn't realise that there were disabled people too at your Christian retreat who are fighting these proposals as well. That great that you made some good friends and were all offered counselling. That's quite something in itself, these days.

    I'm OK but despite have having some very good news for myself and my partner, we are having a hard time feeling glad about it because of the way we heard about it and all that we have had to go through in the last few weeks.

    I will tell you what it is but I want to downplay it because of the feelings of other members like yourself, who cannot escape the reality of these proposals.

    You might be aware of the news, a few days ago about Timms announcing that if you are state pension age at your next review, you will be assessed by the current criteria for PIP instead of the future eligibility being decided by getting four points in a descriptor, as it will be for people of working age?

    Well, after my partner and I thought that we would lose his standard daily living after his light touch review (it would soon have turned into a full assessment 😡) in 2028 and I would lose my Carer's Allowance for him, which would nearly have wiped out our extra money for the costs of being disabled and would have left us with an reduced income which would have mostly been spent on the rent, food and bills we have discovered that it won't now won't apply to us.

    My partner is 71 and I'm 60. As you can see, he will no longer lose his PIP and I will no longer lose Carer's Allowance and it also means I'm completely safe too as my next review (light touch) is in 9 years time, 2 years after I reach state pension age myself. (I have two descriptors of daily living where I score 4 points)

    It is wonderful news, for us at least but although we are so relieved 😌 it's the timing of it that has been such a great problem.

    Don't get me wrong, I know that hundreds of thousands of disabled people including members of this community are going to lose EVERYTHING. 😢

    However, we were going to be put into a position where we would really have had to struggle for about 4 years before my state pension age. It would have taken a long time to hear about my partner's PIP to begin with.

    With the circumstances, as you can imagine for processing all this misery and greatly increased numbers of those who will appeal their decision, that could easily take a year or two, I reckon.

    We do have the advantage that my partner would able to apply for Attendance Allowance, the eligibility is a lot less strict than for DL PIP and you get a decision a lot sooner. We thought that would be the way to go instead of fighting the PIP decision.

    Under these circumstances there would have been no option to get Carer's Allowance back but at least we had the prospect of having housing benefit (instead of the completely inadequate rate of UC housing element) and Severe Disability Premium returned to us, once I reached state pension age and could see the back of UC.

    This would have resulted in hardship and a lot of trouble to get some of the money back at a time when my partner is in his mid to late seventies, quite apart from the fact that his health is deteriorating faster as he's getting older and that I am so disabled.

    So, thank goodness that we do not have to go through that now but we have had to adjust to that future scenario for ourselves over the last few weeks.

    Of course, the government could not do the right thing and make sure that people like us of which I understand my partner and I are amongst about 700,000 others.

    Timms said that this was in line with existing policy, which it is, when government have done previous benefit "reforms." If it's in line with what previous governments have done, why couldn't they have said so at the Spring Statement?

    This turn of the screw is no doubt deliberate, psychologically scarring 700,000 human beings who thought they were going to lose so much, us included. 😞

    You know, I have thought that even if the government backed down on the worst effects of these proposals, that NONE of us would feel the same again after having to go through such a terrifying experience.

    I haven't said this before because, like you I try to be optimistic for the benefit of of the members of this community, but whatever happens, even if we succeed in what we are trying to do, we all need to support each other through the PTSD that we will all inevitably get from living through this experience.

    That is what is already happening to my partner and I despite the very positive outcome for us.

    As I have already said on other threads, already, I have no intention whatsoever of backing away from or even reducing my fight against these cuts. It's impossible to do so.

    If other disabled people have a problem, then as far as I'm concerned, it's my problem too. I'm one of a collective and it will remain that way. ✊ So it will continue as business as usual for me.

    I do apologise for such a long message when you have only just come back. Please do take as much time as you like to reply to it and don't feel that it has to be a long detailed one! 😊

    I shall reply to other parts of your message when I next hear from you, if you don't mind as I could not deal with doing all this at once.

    It's great that you've had such a boost from your retreat but it's great to have you back too. 🤗

    Please continue to take your time ploughing through the backlog on this community and do take great care of yourself.

    You don't know how much your optimism and drive uplift and inspire me. ✊👏💪😃

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,831 Championing
    edited April 27

    "Timms said that this was in line with existing policy, which it is, when government have done previous benefit "reforms." If it's in line with what previous governments have done, why couldn't they have said so at the Spring Statement?"

    Because Timms and his collaborators would rather be hated and driven from office for these changes than be known for their role in earlier 'reforms'.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 671 Championing

    Hi @jul1aorways,

    Thank you, as always, for such a heartfelt, deeply moving message.🤗 You have such a rare gift for writing what so many of us feel but struggle to put into words.


    First off, I’m so, so pleased to hear about the positive news for you and your partner regarding PIP post-state pension age! After all the chaos, confusion and strategic silence from the DWP, hearing something concrete and reassuring -feels like spotting a lighthouse in a storm. It’s a victory, and I genuinely celebrate it with you and many who are overjoyed with this news.You and your partner deserve peace, not more bureaucratic terror.

    But like you, even in the midst of this relief, my heart is heavy. Because this “good news” exposes, more starkly than ever, the deliberate cruelty we’ve all been subjected to.

    If, as Timms casually admitted, this exemption for pensioners was already policy since 2019, then why in God’s name was it not made clear from the outset in the Green Paper? Why let 700,000 disabled pensioners spiral into fear, stress and in many cases, serious health decline over something that could have been stated in one simple sentence?

    The answer, @jul1aorways, as we both sadly know, is because cruelty wasn’t a side effect -it was the strategy.

    This whole situation reminds me of an old colloquial saying: “If you confuse people long enough, they’ll be too exhausted to fight.” Well, they clearly underestimated disabled people, didn’t they?


    Like you, my fury with the DWP isn’t just because they almost destroyed lives- it’s because they did it knowingly. No proper Equality Impact Assessment. No open questions for pension-age claimants in the consultation. No basic respect. Just 303 sections of legalistic smoke and mirrors.

    I completely share your concern too, that now some people - understandably relieved by this pension-age exemption -might step back from the fight. I don’t blame anyone who’s exhausted. But the government is counting on exactly that: divide and conquer. They threw a bone to pensioners while sharpening the knives for the rest of us -especially younger disabled people and those unable to “move closer to work” under their dystopian new definitions.

    The “Pathways to Work” proposals are not just tweaks to benefits. They represent a radical, brutal overhaul of the social contract between the state and disabled citizens. It’s no exaggeration to say our very dignity and survival are on the line.

    So like you, no matter what happens, I’m in this for the long haul.

    As you said so beautifully -if another disabled person suffers, it’s our problem too. That’s solidarity. And solidarity is our greatest weapon right now.

    This government seems to forget that people who’ve been forced to survive the hardest circumstances develop something no amount of policy spin can erase: resilience. It runs in our veins now.

    And you’re absolutely right about the PTSD element too. It’s already happening. Even if tomorrow the Green Paper was scrapped entirely (and don’t we wish!), the scars this has caused -the sleepless nights, the panic, the tears, the hopelessness -will stay with us. As if disabled people weren’t battling enough without having to endure psychological warfare from their own supposed government.


    Which is why, as you said, it’s crucial that we not only fight -we heal together. After all, fighting for rights and justice is not just about petitions and MPs (though we’ll keep hammering them), it’s about holding each other up in the storm.

    And speaking of MP’s-as you rightly say-now is the time for maximum pressure:

       •   Write personally to MPs, Lords, Ministers, Councillors,APPG’s.

       •   Join and amplify DPO (Disabled People’s Organisations) campaigns.

       •   Sign and share every solid petition, campaign, open letters etc to fight the joint cause.

       •   Keep flooding the consultation email with truth -even though it’s clearly designed to discourage us.

    Because if we don’t, we risk losing protections that have taken decades of hard, painful struggle to achieve.

    Thank you again, @jul1aorways, not just for your powerful words but for your sheer bravery. You have no idea how much it strengthens and motivates people like me -and so many members reading silently -to keep going.

    And thank you  and to many others for welcoming me back so warmly -it really means the world.

    Take care my friend — I’m so proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with you. ✊

    Solidarity Always,

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Online Community Member Posts: 315 Trailblazing


    I have filled in the green paper consultation with what I wanted them to know in each section box (they gave room for lots of words, so I used it!) including a detailed breakdown of what happened when I originally claimed PIP and how their policies are discriminating because the employment issue is in the system. I work, so I feel I can and should speak from the perspective of a disabled person in work how naive and silly their suggestions are.

    I've also signed a whole bunch of petitions on this issue. Although I'm not directly affected by it yet, I don't want to do nothing.

    I also contacted both Timms and Kendall independently of each other before the cuts were announced. I did a fair bit of research about the employment realities for disabled people, and sent that all on to them, but unfortunately they don't seem to have paid any attention to it. It makes me sad that they never even mention the Buckland Report, when (especially considering it was chaired by a Tory) it is such a good insight into autism and employment opportunities/how to challenge and change that outcome. None of the things that the government are doing are mentioned in it.

    I just wish my MP was more use…but even when the Tories were discussing cuts, he was blatantly disinterested. To be honest, the neighbouring MP (who supports the cuts) has done more campaigning for some of OUR local issues because they affect his constituents as well.

    Unfortunately I cannot contact him either as he has connections with my place of employment and I…need to keep my job.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 671 Championing

    @Amaya_Ringo


    Thank you for sharing your actions and thoughts-you’ve shown incredible strength, determination, and strategic thinking, and I deeply respect that. You’ve really highlighted how important it is that disabled people, especially those already in work, make their voices heard about how dangerous and discriminatory these proposals are for disabled people in and out of work.

    As I mentioned in my very earlier posts on the Green Paper thread, I too researched, prepared  submitted a detailed and strategic response to the consultation with my personal impact story – but I chose to email it directly to Consultation.pathwaystowork@dwp.gov.uk. I made this choice because I was deeply concerned that responding through their official link (which leads to a Microsoft Forms page) felt like stepping into a trap: the 20 questions were heavily leading, clearly designed to steer people into agreeing with the proposals rather than allowing true disagreement to be expressed.

    While many disabled people , including many of my colleagues have understandably used the form and every voice does matters – I strongly feel that the whole consultation process has been made exclusionary from the outset. As you rightly alluded to , it feels like an illusion of engagement. In truth, this rushed and vague Green Paper seems to have been designed not to empower or “Reform” the experiences of disabled people, but to exclude the most vulnerable from meaningful participation, in an effort to push through damaging changes under the guise of saving money.

    Although I have heard of the Buckland Report, I must admit I haven’t delved into it as deeply as you have – and it’s clear you have done some impressive research. I share your frustration that the government and even opposition MPs have barely acknowledged it. It’s very telling: the Buckland Report offered meaningful insight into the barriers disabled people with Autism face in employment, yet none of the current proposals reflect its findings. It only reinforces the fact that this Green Paper is not based on evidence or genuine consultation but on political expediency.

    As you rightly said, it’s disheartening when our efforts seem to be ignored -I too have not received any reply to my communications from MP’s and parliamentarians . However, under UK law, government consultations must be genuine, conducted when proposals are still at a formative stage, provide sufficient information to allow an informed response, and conscientiously consider the feedback received. These are known as the Gunning Principles (and also adhere to Consultation Principles and guidance , GOV.UK 2012). By ignoring these principles, this consultation risks being legally and morally flawed.

    That’s why our voices, lived experiences, and personal stories are crucial now more than ever. Each of us brings a different angle, and together, they build an undeniable case against these devastating proposals. Your efforts – contacting MPs, researching, responding robustly – are not wasted. They are part of a collective shield we are building for ourselves and for those who may not have the capacity or opportunity to advocate for themselves.

    Solidarity matters. Every petition signed, every story shared, every call made strengthens our stand.

    Even when the system tries to silence or sideline us, our determination grows stronger.

     As the parliamentary votes approach, it’s vital that we stay vigilant, stay vocal, and support one another.

    Thank you again for your courage and perseverance. What you have done – and continue to do – gives hope and inspiration to so many others.

    Together, we are not powerless.

    In Solidarity ✊

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    Hi @noonebelieves

    Thank you yet again for your very kind words! 🤗 I appreciate them more than you know. 😊

    I loved what you said about the good news being like spotting a lighthouse in a storm. ⛈️🌊 That is SO apt.

    I'm beginning to actually feel positive about the news at last, but I'm still very down about the "strategic silence." imposed on my partner and I plus on so many other disabled pensioners and those approaching state pension age.

    Although it's only been for a few weeks we have still suffered terribly with many people that will have a serious or even irreversible decline in health,as you said.

    Timms didn't even make a specific statement about this, he just answered the questions bought by two other MPs. He will have timed it to say it at this particular time but this casual cruelty is breathtaking. 😮

    All the time, it is to tell us that we are unimportant, that we are not worth their consideration. However, they HAVE underestimated us. We can see through their manipulation and will NOT take it personally, which is what they want. We certainly won't let them discourage us from fighting them!! 💪

    You've made such a good point.😳 I can really get behind what you have said, you can't blame the pension aged disabled for backing away from the fight but you are right, they want them to back off hoping that around 700,000 elderly people will abandon the working age people, who will be affected so it will be easier for ministers to stab the remaining working age in the back.

    We must see that the fight goes on. We MUST stay together. I couldn't do things any other way but I can imagine that a lot of elderly people will just draw the line under this now. 😞

    You said it too when you said "As if disabled people weren't battling enough without having to endure psychological warfare from their own supposed government."

    The PTSD is a fact and will continue to be but we will not be defeated. With this round of cuts we have been truly forced to fight for our very lives this time.

    Our resistance is working too so with all the resilience and determination we can muster we must do our level best to tell government and all other political parties that WE ARE a force to be reckoned with so ministers will back down and other parties get the idea that they will bite off more than they will chew, if they push us too far.

    If not, they will do their best to make things even worse, if that's possible. We MUST put a stop to this, 😱 there are no alternatives!! We have lost too much already.

    I have a lot more that I want to say on what you have written but I've done two long posts today. Please don't worry though, I will be back tomorrow.

    You write such a valuable and insightful posts, to all of us and, as you say, our silent readers too.

    I feel so privileged to have you stand shoulder to shoulder with me too.

    Solidarity Always ✊

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 671 Championing
    edited April 27

    @WhatThe

    Members should also be aware that flooding MPs' email accounts with complaints can suggest an ability to carry out administrative tasks, repeatedly and reliably...


    I take your point, but I have never claimed benefits because of an inability to send an email. Moreover, what other options do disabled people have, especially when this issue, if implemented, could threaten our very existence?


    Turning up at an MP's office and expecting to be seen just isn't realistic.


    I agree with your point  and I hate to see govt officials in person- but I’ve called the MP’s office and was answered by some admin-then been asked to turn up at the public surgery at our local library


    Best Wishes!

  • Manonfire747
    Manonfire747 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    Hi folks I hope you have all had a good weekend . I have not really had a good day for a long time my stress and anxiety levels have been very high ever since I started to get lots of letters from DWP which I don't really understand telling me that ESA was ending and I would be going over to Universal Credit. I have been on ESA [Support Group] for around 18 years I also get high rate PIP for Mobility and the Care . I am a disabled wheelchair user , with mental health problems , bi polar , personality disorder , stress , anxiety , waiting for a knee replacement and a ankle fusion . I also have type two diabetes and a small brain tumour which might have to be taken out if gets bigger. I have a lot on my plate and I am finding it hard to cope , I have Carer's who come in every day for three hours. I just want to be able to relax and enjoy my years which I have left . I have no idea what my new payments are going to be I am waiting for an email on the 2nd of May . Is anybody else waiting for a email on that date telling them their new payments ? This is my first post on this site , I feel I belong to something . All the best ,Philip.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 671 Championing
    edited April 27

    Hi @jul1aorways,

    Thank you so much once again for sharing your brilliant insight. Honestly, as I’ve said before, politics has never been my strong suit .I often feel like a lost tourist without a map! 😳But thanks to you and so many wonderful people here, I’m learning every day. I’m truly grateful.

    It’s really uplifting to hear that our collective resistance is making a difference. We mustn’t underestimate how important it is to have a space like this, where we can stand together, support each other, and share vital information — especially when so many others I’ve come to know feel isolated, or avoid public forums altogether because of the discrimination they’ve faced.

    I’ve also tagged my MP asking him to attend the DPAC and Coalition for Cuts parliamentary event on 25th of May . When I see him on the 15th to sate my personal story , I’ll be sure to remind him (firmly but politely, of course!). I think I even shared a screenshot of the banner somewhere on this thread -or maybe in the Green Paper discussion -my memory’s not what it used to be! 💨

    I just hope my health holds out enough to see this fight through. It’s tough going, but hearing from you really lifts the spirits. Thank you for being such a considerate and motivating voice -it genuinely means a lot.

    I’m looking forward to hearing more updates from you when you can.

    Take good care,
    Best wishes,

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 671 Championing
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    PLEASE LOBBY YOUR MP TO ATTEND

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,831 Championing
    edited April 27

    People need to know they might only see an MP's representative when they attend a surgery.

    I wrote that for balance.

    Readers must also not feel guilty or inadequate if they cannot send emails, write long posts, doorstep their MP etc.

    noonebelieves, you wrote this - "The “Pathways to Work” proposals are not just tweaks to benefits. They represent a radical, brutal overhaul of the social contract between the state and disabled citizens."

    No. It began on 1st April 2013.

    Pathways to Work is now over 20 years old in the making.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,831 Championing

    Manonfire, great name and welcome to Scope!

    If you have a specific question then create a new thread and members will try to help.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering
    edited 7:43AM

    Hi @noonebelieves 😊

    I have gathered that sharing my political knowledge is helping others on here which I'm glad to do.

    You're right, it is very easy to feel like a " lost tourist without a map." with politics.

    Despite having this knowledge, I have members here ask me what various things mean and it is SO difficult to explain it in clear terms to them! 😬

    It makes me realise what a challenge it is for others to understand all the seemingly endless ins and outs of the political system.

    I'm only too glad to help members out though especially as it is so necessary in our our fight against politics worse excesses, as we are having to do. 💪

    As you so rightly say, if we all pool our support for each other and our different opinions and perspectives, we can find the BEST possible way of challenging the government. One individual is strong but collective pressure is a force of nature. ✊

    Fortunately we are on a community free of discrimination, where members are friendly and supportive, especially to those in real need and there is an actual powerful will to want to change things, instead of apathy and a lack of interest in engaging with other members. We have such a special place to be here. 🤗 I feel so privileged to be a member.

    I have had quite a positive reply from my own Conservative (boo!! lol) MP. I'm about to put the relevant part of that email on here on the Get Your MP to act against cuts, Green Paper and Spring Statement Discussions. I am going to give a brief opinion on what I think of it then ask others for their opinions on how they think it resonates with them. That will then form part of my response to him.

    It's amazing what other members, including yourself can contribute just by seeing the email's content from a different perspective and commenting on it!! 💪 All points of view will be welcome. 😊 I can then challenge him on what he has said in the most effective way.

    I really do hope that your health won't prevent you seeing this through. 🫣 I would miss your wise, upbeat and insightful consul enormously and so would the other members. 😔

    Saying that, you must look after yourself and your health conditions first. I do so hope that it doesn't come to you having to step back a lot or step down. 😞

    I'm really glad that I help motivate you to keep going, I, of course, will do that in every way I can to help you to keep going forward. ✌️

    Please look after yourself and take great care. 👍

    With my very best wishes. 😊

    In Solidarity ✊

  • Manonfire747
    Manonfire747 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    Good morning everybody I hope that you all slept well , not easy with all the uncertainly about benefits at the moment .My gas & electric has gone up by £48 per month , now where is that money going to come from ? My Carer is going to do my weekly shop today which is normally £65 a week , I can remember a time when a few years back my shopping would come to £45 a week. This cost of living is terrible and our benefits are just not covering everything now . I am going to sit out in my garden and enjoy the sunshine , which is free ! Have a good day folks , Phil.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,439 Championing

    Any updates Any news on developments when government go quiet I worry

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 671 Championing

    Thanks for your insight, @WhatThe. Let’s now use all that background knowledge to amplify our lived experiences and voices, and stand in solidarity against the catastrophic impacts this current brutal green paper would have on our disabled communities.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,831 Championing

    I am trying to explain that the current reassessment programme for disabled claimants (under 2016 rules) is the immediate danger. Migration to UC is underway on the basis of subverted ESA regulations.