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  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 677 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Hi @egister


    Thanks for sharing your views-I now see where you’re coming from.
    That said, I’d like to gently highlight something I mentioned yesterday: many disabled people, myself included, never expected to become full-time campaigners or warriors. We’re all navigating a lot already -emotionally, practically, and systemically. While it’s important to stay informed, there’s also a risk of being overwhelmed and distracted by the sheer volume of alarming information, especially when it veers into territory that isn’t directly actionable right now.


    For example, regarding concerns around AI: from what I’ve briefly read in the House of Commons library -research briefing document (Apr 2025)on use of AI (some of which are accessible only to government officials via login), while there are - and have been -some pilots involving AI in government(various departments)processes, there is currently no official evidence that it is being widely used and implemented  systematically to scrutinise benefit claims or public correspondence to MPs or Parliament. From what I understand, the use of AI in governmental organisations, systems, and processes is currently described more as a future opportunity rather than a widespread practice -and when it has been used, there appears to be some level of transparency to the public. I can also see that there is structured official  guidance for civil servants on the use of generative AI, which is mainly used for research purposes. So while we should stay vigilant, I think it’s equally important to stay grounded in what’s immediate and verifiable -like the very real and imminent threat and dangers posed by the proposals in the current Pathways to Work green paper.


    In these difficult times, I believe that hope, focus, and collective actions-rooted in facts — are our best tools, provided they are carried out in a strategically informed manner.I strongly believe-Our voices do matter, and together, we can make a difference.


    In Solidarity ✊

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,170 Championing

    Hi all

    Sorry I haven't been here much lately but I haven't been too well and I have my stupid pip review form to get through.

    I won't be around much this weekend but I wish you all well and lots of love. X

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  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 394 Pioneering

    Hi Everyone

    Due to having had some very difficult external circumstances affecting my life and that of my partner in recent months I have made the decision that I contribute less to this community.

    It certainly means that I will be around just not as much as I was. I have ME/CFS, an anxiety disorder and depression and the events that have happened have all made my health conditions a lot worse.

    You may have read the good news that my partner (who is also disabled) and I had. With him being pension age and the fact that I am not having my next PIP review until pension age, myself means we are exempt from the cuts.

    Although we are really relieved, we still had to go through the same scenario as you are all doing until Timms announced that exemption a week ago.

    Knowing that was an act of calculated cruelty is nothing I take personally but it is still having a very negative effect on me, despite doing all I can to not think about it.

    That has bought everything to a head unfortunately so I am doing my best to make my life easier. However, I do not want you to think that I won't be here to help you fight these appalling decisions because I will, just not as much. ✊

    I do hope that normal service will resume shortly on the forum. Things seem to be improving. 👍

    I send you all my very best wishes especially @noonebelieves @pinkrose and @secretsquirrel 😊

  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Community Member Posts: 113 Empowering

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8jde2pdx7o

    Apparently Welsh Labour MP's were not happy hearing this.

    It will be very interesting to see what she says next week about the wider cuts being made.

    To give some history in the Senedd Plaid are really laying into them,

  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 274 Empowering

    I read that the rules for PIP are changing at the end of May 2025. I thought this wasnt coming into effect until Nov 2026?

  • Middleton
    Middleton Community Member Posts: 274 Empowering
    edited May 2025

    Has it come alot earlier than your award date

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,366 Championing
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  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering

    Well Labour lose Runcorn in the by election …..

    Here's hoping this is the beginning of the end for Starmer & co …..

    Surely there will be rumblings of discontent within the party and questions asked about his leadership !

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing

    But which way will Labour go? Towards the right to try of get Reform voters back? Or return to a decent one-nation social-democratic party that we hoped for? We don't know when Labour lost. One benefit claiming household could have swung it, a few pensioners could have swung it, but equally hatred for migrants could have won the day. I can't see a good way forward from this morning.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering
    edited May 2025

    ''But while Labour held on by just 687 votes, Reform enjoyed a huge 21% swing – a rise of 30% since 2021, Labours vote was down 11%''.

    That was what I woke up to this morning 😩It really was no surprise, my City will never ditch Labour, worrying that Reform has that swing in votes, God help us all.

    The overall percentage turnout was 32.27 per cent, looks like folk are probably fed up and couldn't be bothered to vote.

  • jasminehoop
    jasminehoop Community Member Posts: 51 Contributor

    Wherever it said that, they're wrong. Every reputable source I checked correctly puts the putative start date for the PIP points changes at November 2026. In fact, isn't it mentioned in the Green Paper?

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,631 Championing

    DWP figures released in response to an FOI request from the Benefits and Work website show how many people with different disabilities and illnesses currently receive the PIP daily living allowance having scored under four points in all categories. They include:

    • 214,000 claimants with arthritis – that’s 77% of all arthritis claimants receiving the daily living allowance

    • 38,000 with cardiovascular diseases – 62%

    • 45,000 with respiratory diseases – 55%

    • 38,000 with multiple sclerosis and neuropathic diseases – 48%

    • 23,000 with cancer – 33%

    • 11,000 with cerebral palsy and neurological muscular diseases – 24%

    • 26,000 with psychotic disorders – 23%

    The figures also indicate how many new applicants with different conditions would over time fail to qualify for PIP from November next year if the plans are voted through. 

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    I have lived as a non-tourist in very different countries, and I have not had any problems with the local population - maybe because I behaved decently and did not show disrespect for the traditions of the natives?

    Voting for certain parties is like going to support your football team - it only benefits the owners of the football club (or party).

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    HI! It seems that you did not understand the meaning of what I wrote - the government does not need petitions and personal letters to deputies to collect public opinion - there are systems for this that collect data on the Internet.

    https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-10236/CBP-10236.pdf

    2.9 Department for Work and PensionsThe Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has experimented with several AI-related tools, including:

    • White Mail: a correspondence reviewing tool that identifies people whomight be in vulnerable situations and prioritises them for DWP assistance

    .• The Lighthouse AI Programme: as of 2023, this involved:

    – trialling AI-enabled projects to complement the services workcoaches provide to customers in job centres.

    – trialling how AI can write, update, or organise code to address thecurrent digital skills shortage in areas like software engineering.

    – trialling productivity tools for all colleagues to use, such as rapidlysummarising policy documents or providing simple tools to gatherinformation for frontline colleagues.15

    Note that a Guardian article from January 2025 reported that several DWP AIexperiments had been cancelled or curtailed.16

    It is not known how true this is, but even if only a small part is true, it looks like a monkey with a grenade.
    I will note that the links you provided contain significant errors, it is clear that it was not written by an AI specialist.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering

    The "Do not scrap the Work Capability Assessment (WCA)" petition has finally been published ….

    Everyone needs to get it signed !

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    Please share the names, titles and emails of those you wrote to.

    ☺️

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