Green Paper Related Discussions

So they don’t have the staff now, imagine if the 4 point rules comes in and a million people go to MR

Like I was saying , just not been thought through in the slightest , even though I was scared I always thought there would need to be some amendments, as what they are saying isn't logical and is simply dangerous

Hi, hope this helps a bit, I too spoke to DWP a bit ago and they told me same thing, not enough staff to reassess people and only in very limited situations as below.

Yes, the DWP is reassessing for LCWRA (Limited Capability for Work Related Activity) in certain circumstances, but the vast majority of existing LCWRA claimants will not be reassessed. Specifically, the DWP plans to abolish the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) for most existing claimants and only reassess in limited situations, such as when a claimant reports a change in their health condition or if they were awarded LCWRA for a short-term prognosis, like cancer treatment. 

I rang them last month on an unrelated issue and asked them about LCWRA reassessments too. They said I shouldn't worry about it unless my circumstances change and are only doing them if your illness improves, youv'e had cancer and are getting better, you were pregnant (don't think I was!!). Also they mentioned not enough staff anyway to do all LCWRA claims because they don't have the staff. It's mostly Liz Kendall and the government trying to scare us again with untrue statements and propaganda to demoralise us.

If your still unsure or worried, which I was too, please don't be afraid to ring UC and put your mind at ease, they were helpful to myself and surprisingly polite and quite freindly.

No voting for but only have 5 mps . Don’t know how true but I heard Tory’s voting against

They need the money . Yesterday I saw a YouTube video where it was said an advisor has claimed that pip was just meant to be frozen until their house building helps the economy. Once they realised this wasn’t happening they decided to scrap pip . Obviously I don’t know if it’s true but does make sense

I think Rishi would have backed down as I think he was weaker and more emphatic than Starmer . Even their green paper didn’t make it through the courts as they weren’t very good but Starmer made sure his policies are water tight and he fought to keep the Tory green paper . To think the relief when Tory’s were out and labour in .

I think the fear of all this came when Liz Witch Kendall said she wanted a ramping up of reassessments but failed to explain properly (on purpose no doubt) exactly what rhis meant, and the critera and circumstances for this. It had us all in fear of being suddenly reassessed for LCWRA with little information at the time who would be assessed. When she was pressed on this by the media and other groups, she admitted it was to be those who had a change in circumstances (which was the case before anyway) and people who were pregnant at the time of their claim, and cancer patients who were now better etc.

If your not in this criteria I honestly wouldn't worry too much, they are still dealing with backlogs, short staffed, dealing with mandatory reconsiderations and appeals, which will of course be made worse if PIP changes come into force because most people will appeal when turned down if this 4 point rule comes in, which at present has loads of opposition form DPAC, charities, and now over 100 labour mp's. I truly beleive the DWP have more to worry about at the moment , and not enough resources to be reassessing all of us, they can't even answer the phones after half hour of waiting, and it takes sometimes over a week for a reply on UC journals!!

the government have been reported to have changed there mind on the winter fuel payments this gives me great hope that the pip cuts will be next